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Old 10-01-2012, 03:22 PM   #1
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In the olden days, when people had diphtheria and children were covered in soot, cars had skinny little tyres so that enthusiastic drivers could have fun making them slither about on roundabouts.

Nowadays, though, it’s all about grip. Fast Fords are fitted with front differentials to ensure you can keep a tight line, even when you are doing 1,000mph through a mountain hairpin. Then you have the Nissan GT-R, which uses the computing power of a stock exchange to make the same mountain hairpin doable at the speed of sound.

In fact, all modern cars cling to the road like a frightened toddler clings onto its mother’s hand. In some ways this is no bad thing. It means the befuddled and the weak are less likely to spin off and hit a tree. And it means the helmsmen among us can post faster lap times on track days.

But is that what you want? Really? Because when the grip does run out, you will be travelling at such a rate that you will have neither the talent nor the time to get everything back in order before you slam into a telegraph pole. If you are trying to win a race, high cornering speeds are important. But if you are not, they’re frightening.

For the business of going fast, a Nissan GT-R is unbeatable. But for fun — and I am not exaggerating here — you would be better off in a Morris Minor on cross-plies.

Which brings me neatly to the door of this week’s test car. It’s called the Toyota GT86 and it’s been built in a collaboration with Subaru, which is selling an almost identical machine called the BRZ. Unlike most coupés, such as the Ford Capri, Volkswagen Scirocco and Vauxhall Calibra, the GT86 is not a hatchback in a party frock. It is not a marketing exercise designed to relieve the style-conscious of their surplus cash. It isn’t even very good-looking. Or practical. The boot is large enough for things, but you can forget about putting anyone in the back, even children. Unless they’ve no legs or heads.

Power? Well, it has a 2-litre boxer engine — Subaru’s contribution — which delivers 197 brake horsepower. That’s not very much. But because the car weighs just 1,275kg and the engine is so revvy, you’ll hit 62mph in 7.6 seconds and a top speed of 140mph. It could almost be mistaken for a hot hatch.

But there’s no mistaking the noise. This car is loud, and not in a particularly nice way. There’s no crisp exhaust note, no induction wheezing. It’s just the sound of petrol exploding in a metal box.

The interior is nothing to write home about, either. You get what you need by way of equipment — air-conditioning, stereo, cupholders and so on — but there’s no sense of style or beauty. Apart from a bit of red stitching here and there, it all feels utilitarian, the product of a bean counter’s lowest-bidder wet dream. So, there is nothing about this car, either on paper or in the showroom, that is going to tickle the tickly bits of Clint Thrust, the lantern-jawed hero from the planet Oversteer. And yet there is, because, unlike most cars of its type, the GT86 is rear-wheel drive. Rear drive in a car is like a roux in cooking. Yes, you can use cheap’n’easy cornflour front-wheel drive, but if you want the best results you have to go the extra mile. You have to fit a prop shaft. And a differential.

In a rear-drive car the front wheels are left to get on with the job of steering while those at the back handle the business of propulsion. It’s expensive to make a car this way, and complicated, but the end result will be better, more balanced.

And now we get to the nub of Toyota’s genius. The company fitted the GT86 with the same skinny little tyres it uses on the Prius. And what this means is that there is very little grip. You turn into a corner at what by modern standards is a pedestrian speed, and immediately you feel the tail start to slide.

So you let it go a little bit, and when the angle is just so, you find a throttle position that keeps it there. For ever. You are power-sliding, you are grinning like an ape and you are doing about 13mph. Which means that if you do make a mess of it and you’re heading for a tree, you can open the door and get out.

You won’t make a mess of it, though, because the steering is perfectly weighted and full of juicy feel. I promise. The GT86 will unlock a talent you didn’t know you had. It will unleash your hero gene and you will never want to drive any other sort of car ever again.
No, really. Put some cotton wool in your ears, snick the old-feeling snick-snick box down into second, stand hard on the astoundingly good brakes, wish you’d used more cotton wool as the boxer engine roars, turn the wheel, feel the back start to go and it’s like being back in the time of the Mk 1 Ford Escort.

I’m sure that at this point many non-enthusiasts are wondering whether I’ve taken leave of my senses. Why, they will ask, would anyone want a noisy, impractical car that won’t go round corners properly? Simple answer: if you’re asking the question, the GT86 is not for you.
I suppose I could raise a safety question. Because, while its antics are a massive giggle on a track, I do wonder what will happen when it’s raining and your head is full of other things and you try to go round a roundabout at 25mph. There’s a time and a place for oversteer and I’m not sure 5.30pm in suburbia is it. Best in these circumstances, then, to turn the traction control on.

There’s another issue, too. I’m willing to bet that some people will decide that the styling of the GT86 could be improved by fitting larger wheels and fatter tyres. Do not do this. Because while it may make the car more meaty to behold, it will ruin the recipe as surely as you would ruin a plate of cauliflower cheese by vomiting on it.

Frankly, I wouldn’t change a thing about the GT86. Because it’s so bland, it doesn’t attract too much attention. You can therefore have fun without being marked out by passers-by as an anorak.

And now we get to the clincher. The GT86 costs less than £25,000 with manual transmission. That makes it cheaper than a Vauxhall Astra VXR. It makes it a Tiffany diamond for the price of a fairground lucky-dip prize.

It’s strange. We thought purpose-designed coupés had gone. We thought wayward handling had gone. And we sure as hell thought genuinely good value had gone. But all three things are now back in one astonishing car. Perhaps the most interesting car to be launched since the original Mazda MX-5. I’m giving it five stars only because it’s not possible to hand out more.
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Am I being too nerdy being distracted by the fact that 1000 MPH is faster than the speed of sound?
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Am I being too nerdy being distracted by the fact that 1000 MPH is faster than the speed of sound?
No you're not. He is pontificating a lot, making his article rather cumbersome and definitely boring.

He took one third of the article length to get to the point, and then he missed it all together.

What a lop-sided writing style..!
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Sliding at 13 mph.. everybody is a drift king
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No you're not. He is pontificating a lot, making his article rather cumbersome and definitely boring.

He took one third of the article length to get to the point, and then he missed it all together.

What a lop-sided writing style..!
And thats why i love his reviews more then any other journalist. He has a very specific taste in cars, a very true taste if you ask me. He may not be always right but when he is he is hits it right on the fucking head.
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He's spot on about everything, it's a wonderful review.
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No you're not. He is pontificating a lot, making his article rather cumbersome and definitely boring.

He took one third of the article length to get to the point, and then he missed it all together.

What a lop-sided writing style..!
It reads like he wrote it as a script for a TV segment, which makes sense given his background.
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I don't have a problem with his silly exaggerations and his point is spot on underneath it all.

I just like that he likes our cars.
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Anyone else read that in Jeremy's voice?
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Anyone else read that in Jeremy's voice?
that's the only way to read it!
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Anyone else read that in Jeremy's voice?
Haha yes. I'm honestly surprised Clarkson likes the 86 as much as he does. Wouldn't have guessed it based on the list of past cars he's liked.
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I just like that he likes our cars.

All but the looks. I don't think he can see very well.
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I also believe he liked it a lot. Look at the closing statement:

“We thought purpose-designed coupés had gone. We thought wayward handling had gone. And we sure as hell thought genuinely good value had gone. But all three things are now back in one astonishing car.... I’m giving it five stars only because it’s not possible to hand out more".

It's just the way he reached that final conclusion was so agonizingly painful to follow!
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I think you're making a big deal over something that's not. I bet if read in it's original format (not jammed together in a forum quote) it'd be easier to follow even with the ridiculousness.

That's just Jeremy Clarkson.
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"You are power-sliding, you are grinning like an ape and you are doing about 13mph. Which means that if you do make a mess of it and you’re heading for a tree, you can open the door and get out."
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2 quotes I loved at this articles

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Why, they will ask, would anyone want a noisy, impractical car that won’t go round corners properly? Simple answer: if you’re asking the question, the GT86 is not for you.
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It’s strange. We thought purpose-designed coupés had gone. We thought wayward handling had gone. And we sure as hell thought genuinely good value had gone. But all three things are now back in one astonishing car.
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No you're not. He is pontificating a lot, making his article rather cumbersome and definitely boring.

He took one third of the article length to get to the point, and then he missed it all together.

What a lop-sided writing style..!
You're right, but he appeals to a certain market.

Tiff Needell appeals to those after a driver's perspective, Chris Harris appeals to those who enjoy a journalist's perspective and Jeremy Clarkson is for those who hang on every word from the drunk guy down the pub.

It wouldn't surprise me if like some of his other reviews, that was written before he'd even driven the car.
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No you're not. He is pontificating a lot, making his article rather cumbersome and definitely boring.

He took one third of the article length to get to the point, and then he missed it all together.

What a lop-sided writing style..!
What point did he miss? That the car was built with low limits for fun? That the car was built to be affordable? That the car is a hoot to drive?

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All but the looks. I don't think he can see very well.
Subjective. After having seen a few on the road, I really can't say I'm in love with the styling as delivered. The stock wheel offset is awful and the back end is awfully busy. A drop and low offset wheels will fix that, but the bone stock cars I've seen in person really don't send me into a tizzy.
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Clarkson is great, not for his praise but for his outlandish writing style and his loose usage of poetic license.

I find myself agreeing with Clarkson to the point it surprises me. About 2 weeks ago I was browsing tires on tire rack and when I looked up the FRS tires (Primacy HP) and saw their treadwear was 220 I ended up looking at tires that were even less grippy.

Some of the most fun I've had on public roads was in a 1988 CRX HF with winter tires on it... Now that would slide around a corner in the dry at 13mph. What a ball!

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Agree with everything written, especially in regards to people understanding the car. I'm among those that disagree about his opinion on the styling though. While the car isn't knock out beautiful, it's by no means bland (I've even had my previous VW mechanics mention it reminds them of an Aston) as it definitely turns heads everywhere .
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You're right, but he appeals to a certain market.

Tiff Needell appeals to those after a driver's perspective, Chris Harris appeals to those who enjoy a journalist's perspective and Jeremy Clarkson is for those who hang on every word from the drunk guy down the pub.

It wouldn't surprise me if like some of his other reviews, that was written before he'd even driven the car.
Drunk guys have the most interesting stories lol. Clarkson is an entertainer and I enjoy his view deliveries
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