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iff2mastamatt · 06-16-2011, 09:20 PM

Most of us seem concerned about the weight of this car, and we are always looking to shed anything in excess for the sake of performance. Would you want a spare tire in your FR-S, or would you prefer another alternative to save the extra lbs.? I believe some Porsches have a tire kit and some "goo", but will that suffice for the weight savings?

Laika · 06-16-2011, 09:44 PM

I'd be willing to bet almost any amount of money that this thread will somehow make it to page 30 and by then we'll be talking about why the AE86 is so awesome (vs others saying its so awful), why the FT86 won't be all it's cracked up to be, how much better this car would be with a turbo, what "lightweight" really means, Will Smith's daughters' terrible songs, and maybe armageddon.

Sell the car with a spare tire, if you don't like it, get rid of it and put a tire repair kit in it's place. My two cents.

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Midship Runabout · 06-16-2011, 09:47 PM

No thank you.
And say no to fix a flat!

iff2mastamatt · 06-16-2011, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laika

I'd be willing to bet almost any amount of money that this thread will somehow make it to page 30 and by then we'll be talking about why the AE86 is so awesome (vs others saying its so awful), why the FT86 won't be all it's cracked up to be, how much better this car would be with a turbo, what "lightweight" really means, Will Smith's daughters' terrible songs, and maybe armageddon.

Sell the car with a spare tire, if you don't like it, get rid of it and put a tire repair kit in it's place. My two cents.

I whip my hair back and forth I whip my hair back and forth I whip my hair back and forth I whip my hair back and forth

Or maybe people can discuss the topic.

Random_Art · 06-16-2011, 10:20 PM

I'll take a spare. I've had bad experiences with cars that totally shredded the tire to the point where a can of goo would have been laughably pointless. If I really need the weight savings, I can always leave the spare in the truck when I take it to the track.

Dimman · 06-16-2011, 10:21 PM

I heard tire installers will piss on your grave and curse your unborn children if they have to deal with a goo-'fixed' tire/wheel.

enc0re · 06-16-2011, 11:04 PM

I don't care whether it has a spare or not because I'm a lazy fuck that'll call roadside assistance every time. Change a wheel with my own two hands? No siree, if my insurance only charges me $1/month for free roadside assistance.

What I do not want however are runflats. So if it means avoiding those on this car I'll happily have a spare.

OldSkoolToys · 06-17-2011, 12:25 AM

Yes, full size even would be the best (AE86 came with a full size, fyi).

You wanna shave weight by removing simplicities save that for the track, or unless you rrreally don't care about getting stuck if something happens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman

I heard tire installers will piss on your grave and curse your unborn children if they have to deal with a goo-'fixed' tire/wheel.

The policy at the shop I worked at when I changed tires/oil was, if it has fix-a-flat in it, or anything similar, we can not repair the tire. Replace or gtfo.

NESW20 · 06-17-2011, 12:26 AM

i would like a spare. i also don't want runflats.

bofa · 06-17-2011, 08:31 AM

If I'm shaving weight, over the drive wheels is probably not the place I'd start first. And yeah don't use that fix a flat stuff... tire guys hate it and some charge extra to deal with it.

markitect · 06-17-2011, 08:41 AM

I have a car with no spare. Since getting it I've had about 1 sidewall puncture per year. I hope they at least give us a place for a spare if we want it.

alexmotrix · 06-17-2011, 11:46 AM

I want this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZGPz80lB-s

RRnold · 06-17-2011, 12:08 PM

I thought a spare tire was a standard issue but a quick google found that these cars don't come with a spare!

Smart Car
Toyota Sienna
BMW M-Series X-Series
Dodge Challenger
Honda Fit
Pontiac G8
Chevy Corvette

Personally if it came with a donut spare and a jack, I would be ok with that. I usually carry a set of tire plugs in my truck and used those several times in the trails.

Giccin · 06-17-2011, 12:29 PM

I'd take a spare if I'm going to be driving for long distances away from my home. (15+miles). If its somewhere close that I'll be going most of the time I'd take it out.

Depends on where you're going tbh.

WingsofWar · 06-17-2011, 12:51 PM

id keep the spare in the garage when i replace the wheels. I remember i had stock 16in wheels on my S14 and when i switched to 18s....then once i ran a flat on my car...having 18 inch wheels and a single full sized 16 looked bad with the car dipped to a single corner and the car was lowered..soo.....eventually because of this i destroyed that wheel bearing after a short limp back home...

if the spare is a 18 inch wheel ..and i replace the factory wheels with ..lets say 18 inch volks...then maybe i might keep it. Then take it out during track days.

GenkiElite · 06-17-2011, 01:09 PM

Gotta have a spare. Run-flats handle like crap and way too expensive. Plus im a do-it-yourself kind of guy and I'm not scrapping that fix-a-flat crap of my rim before I put my new tire on. (yes I have a tire changer :P )

Ryephile · 06-17-2011, 02:45 PM

I'll gladly forgo a spare tire for a small plug-in air compressor and a patch kit.

I have a hunch that those dissing run-flats haven't driven on the current generation of them [i.e. Continential's ContiProContact SSR and Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D RoF]. They're quite livable, despite the inbred ignorant hatred towards them.

tecnica tech · 06-17-2011, 03:11 PM

i have AAA so i dont care either way

speed_demon · 06-17-2011, 03:30 PM

I personally would forgo the spare and just have a can of fix a flat in the car for the weight reduction.

The genuine fix a flat stuff washes off with water. If you are scraping it or complaining about having a hard time with it then you are either just trying to jack up the price for a customer or are lazy. Grab a garden hose and it washes away. Really. No kidding.

OEM tire fix stuff may not be so easy to deal with though. Go for the good stuff.

SharedProphet · 06-17-2011, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold

I thought a spare tire was a standard issue but a quick google found that these cars don't come with a spare!

Smart Car
Toyota Sienna
BMW M-Series X-Series
Dodge Challenger
Honda Fit
Pontiac G8
Chevy Corvette

Personally if it came with a donut spare and a jack, I would be ok with that. I usually carry a set of tire plugs in my truck and used those several times in the trails.

+ Mini Cooper S
The regular Cooper has a spare but for the S, the turbo takes up the space the battery normally occupies, so the battery is relocated to the space the spare normally occupies. I think manufacturers use run-flats as an excuse to not provide a spare. I would want a spare (and no run-flats).

ydooby · 06-17-2011, 04:13 PM

Run-flats will ruin the ride quality. I'll gladly take a donut spare and take it out when I want outright performance.

blacknbean · 06-17-2011, 04:15 PM

never had a spare in any of my cars in 12+ yrs of driving. have AAA and suprisingly never been had a flat on the road. even in my BMW i replaced the RFTs with non RFTs right away.

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Laika When In Doubt... Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Slowww Location: PA215 Posts: 1,502 Thanks: 627 Thanked 523 Times in 311 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'd be willing to bet almost any amount of money that this thread will somehow make it to page 30 and by then we'll be talking about why the AE86 is so awesome (vs others saying its so awful), why the FT86 won't be all it's cracked up to be, how much better this car would be with a turbo, what "lightweight" really means, Will Smith's daughters' terrible songs, and maybe armageddon. Sell the car with a spare tire, if you don't like it, get rid of it and put a tire repair kit in it's place. My two cents. I whip my hair back and forth I whip my hair back and forth I whip my hair back and forth I whip my hair back and forth __________________ GBS Mafia

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Midship Runabout formerly Dixie Normous Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: The ladies wild! Location: ())_)CRAYOLA)_))> Posts: 996 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No thank you. And say no to fix a flat! __________________

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Random_Art professional smartass Join Date: Apr 2010 Drives: 16 speed mountain bike... Location: Georgia Posts: 655 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'll take a spare. I've had bad experiences with cars that totally shredded the tire to the point where a can of goo would have been laughably pointless. If I really need the weight savings, I can always leave the spare in the truck when I take it to the track. __________________ Goodbye Celica, you served me well. http://artsofrandomness.blogspot.com/

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NESW20 2.1L 3SGTE Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: MR2 Turbo & Tacoma Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 1,249 Thanks: 29 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i would like a spare. i also don't want runflats. __________________ 1991 MR2 Turbo - 2.1L high compression stroker 3SGTE 2006 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off Road - All-Pro front bumper, Old Man Emu shocks, Old Man Emu HD front coils, All-Pro leafs 1990 240SX Coupe - sold 2008 Civic Si Sedan

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bofa Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Ms. Daisy Location: Dog house Posts: 638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If I'm shaving weight, over the drive wheels is probably not the place I'd start first. And yeah don't use that fix a flat stuff... tire guys hate it and some charge extra to deal with it. __________________ BRZ before hoes

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enc0re Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: BMW 325i (E46) Location: Michigan Posts: 258 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't care whether it has a spare or not because I'm a lazy fuck that'll call roadside assistance every time. Change a wheel with my own two hands? No siree, if my insurance only charges me $1/month for free roadside assistance. What I do not want however are runflats. So if it means avoiding those on this car I'll happily have a spare.

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markitect Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Drives: Scion FRS Location: Michigan Posts: 107 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have a car with no spare. Since getting it I've had about 1 sidewall puncture per year. I hope they at least give us a place for a spare if we want it.

06-17-2011, 11:46 AM	#12
alexmotrix rookie drifter Join Date: Jan 2011 Drives: 1987 ae86, 1985 celica gts Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 96 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I want this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZGPz80lB-s

06-17-2011, 12:08 PM	#13
RRnold 2 wheel member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: 05 Tacoma 4x4 DC MKIV Supra 6spd TT Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,054 Thanks: 925 Thanked 627 Times in 353 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I thought a spare tire was a standard issue but a quick google found that these cars don't come with a spare! Smart Car Toyota Sienna BMW M-Series X-Series Dodge Challenger Honda Fit Pontiac G8 Chevy Corvette Personally if it came with a donut spare and a jack, I would be ok with that. I usually carry a set of tire plugs in my truck and used those several times in the trails. __________________

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Giccin (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Yaris HBK, Audi 09' TTS<Had> Location: Orange County~~~ Posts: 4,668 Thanks: 2,531 Thanked 1,027 Times in 597 Posts Mentioned: 44 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I'd take a spare if I'm going to be driving for long distances away from my home. (15+miles). If its somewhere close that I'll be going most of the time I'd take it out. Depends on where you're going tbh. __________________ Logic > Emotion ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ) Yashio Factory Pink adds +10HP to anything. TOYOTA FT-86

06-17-2011, 12:51 PM	#15
WingsofWar NINJA MODERATOR #2 Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 87 FC3S TII Location: Seattle Posts: 2,473 Thanks: 233 Thanked 1,016 Times in 382 Posts Mentioned: 40 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	id keep the spare in the garage when i replace the wheels. I remember i had stock 16in wheels on my S14 and when i switched to 18s....then once i ran a flat on my car...having 18 inch wheels and a single full sized 16 looked bad with the car dipped to a single corner and the car was lowered..soo.....eventually because of this i destroyed that wheel bearing after a short limp back home... if the spare is a 18 inch wheel ..and i replace the factory wheels with ..lets say 18 inch volks...then maybe i might keep it. Then take it out during track days. __________________

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GenkiElite Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Drives: 91 Corolla (dd) S14 (daily drifter) Location: Cincinnati Posts: 458 Thanks: 138 Thanked 73 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Gotta have a spare. Run-flats handle like crap and way too expensive. Plus im a do-it-yourself kind of guy and I'm not scrapping that fix-a-flat crap of my rim before I put my new tire on. (yes I have a tire changer :P )

06-17-2011, 02:45 PM	#17
Ryephile Hot Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: quicker than arghx7 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,292 Thanks: 68 Thanked 136 Times in 70 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'll gladly forgo a spare tire for a small plug-in air compressor and a patch kit. I have a hunch that those dissing run-flats haven't driven on the current generation of them [i.e. Continential's ContiProContact SSR and Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D RoF]. They're quite livable, despite the inbred ignorant hatred towards them. __________________ "Wisdom is a not a function of age, but a function of experience." Just Say No to unqualified aftermarket products.

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tecnica tech Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 99 legacy gt Location: sf bay area Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 22 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i have AAA so i dont care either way

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speed_demon Hakuna Matata Join Date: Jun 2011 Drives: 1990 240SX Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I personally would forgo the spare and just have a can of fix a flat in the car for the weight reduction. The genuine fix a flat stuff washes off with water. If you are scraping it or complaining about having a hard time with it then you are either just trying to jack up the price for a customer or are lazy. Grab a garden hose and it washes away. Really. No kidding. OEM tire fix stuff may not be so easy to deal with though. Go for the good stuff. __________________ 1990 240SX Hatch - A few bolt ons

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06-17-2011, 04:13 PM	#21
ydooby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: Toyota MR2 Supercharged Location: CA, USA Posts: 186 Thanks: 62 Thanked 56 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Run-flats will ruin the ride quality. I'll gladly take a donut spare and take it out when I want outright performance.

06-17-2011, 04:15 PM	#22
blacknbean Butterscotch Boss Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: 335i Location: SF Posts: 71 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	never had a spare in any of my cars in 12+ yrs of driving. have AAA and suprisingly never been had a flat on the road. even in my BMW i replaced the RFTs with non RFTs right away.

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