Why are ISS wheels so expensive? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

EvoXDD · 02-02-2013, 01:34 AM

I have never heard of this brand till a couple months after I got the car. For these

I was quoted $4700 after a 10% discount!! Is there something I don't know about their wheels?

ebphoto · 02-02-2013, 01:42 AM

its a custom ordered forged wheel.
seen a few pictures around but nothing else on them at all really..?

OjiGeorge · 02-02-2013, 02:15 AM

That wheel is... wow!

CircuitJerk · 02-02-2013, 02:31 AM

They look nice but delicate.

ASSALBERT · 02-02-2013, 05:07 AM

pretty, yes, but they're still overpriced wheels utilizing inferior forgings and barrels that they dont even manufacture themselves, pretty much like all the other overpriced multi piece "forged" wheels you see out on the market today. Go with a true mold forged wheel from the likes of BBS or Rays (Volk Racing) and you cant go wrong.

asia_minor · 02-02-2013, 10:17 PM

because race car.

n2oinferno · 02-02-2013, 10:34 PM

I know it's not the quite as pretty and not exactly the same, but if you're looking for a similar design, TSW just came out with a couple of new wheels. They have 5x100 fitment, 18x8 +35 available. 19 too if you want to go extra large.

edit: Oops, forgot. This one is called the Jerez. It's part of their rotary forged line.

sevi21 · 02-02-2013, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CircuitJerk

They look nice but delicate.

Yah haha they look very easy to damage !

robispec · 02-03-2013, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvoXDD

I have never heard of this brand till a couple months after I got the car. For these

I was quoted $4700 after a 10% discount!! Is there something I don't know about their wheels?

Because as P T Barnum said there is a FOOL born every minute! NO WHEEL IS WORTH ANYTHING CLOSE TO THIS PRICE. (I can get FORGED MAGNESIUM center lock racing wheels cheaper) But stupid people will buy them just to show everyone how much respect money "and good taste" can buy you!
off soapbox end of rant.

JoeBoxer · 02-03-2013, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

I know it's not the quite as pretty and not exactly the same, but if you're looking for a similar design, TSW just came out with a couple of new wheels. They have 5x100 fitment, 18x8 +35 available. 19 too if you want to go extra large.

edit: Oops, forgot. This one is called the Jerez. It's part of their rotary forged line.

That one isn't rotary forged actually, haven't seen the weights either but i like them also.

adprokid · 02-03-2013, 09:07 AM

Nice lineup of wheels, but I wonder what kind of weights and strength they offer for that price ?

n2oinferno · 02-03-2013, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

That one isn't rotary forged actually, haven't seen the weights either but i like them also.

Damn, you're right. I must've gotten them confused with another model.

seven · 02-03-2013, 09:07 PM

In short, it's become popular lately for "boutique" wheels for people with a lot of money who don't really want anything other than good looking wheels for a high end car that they can brag about...

Out of this you see companies like ISS, Iforged, ADV1, etc.

The wheels that were around 5-10 years ago (or longer) are the brands I'd look at, if you want race-worthy forged wheels... CCW, HRE, RAYS, BBS, etc.

That being said, I run cheap street wheels because if they get crubed its cheap to replace and I don't think people are as likely to steal them. So I run BBS LM replicas from ESM wheels, called the "004" model wheel in 18x9.
For race I run Enkei RPF1s as they're light and cheap and come in 17x9.
If I had crazy money I'd run CCW classics probably.

*edit* - My opinion is, unless you have a ton of money (which if so, why not buy a Lotus Elise? lol), or are trying to win car shows, but whatever is cheap and light to race on... and buy whatever you like to LOOK AT most for street.

Tommy_H · 02-04-2013, 09:56 AM

On BBS and forged... Just the other day I looked at the BBS German website (which BTW was quite underwhelming I found), and I walked away with the impression that none of the BBS wheels are forged, but are cast with flow-forming technology. They are Made in Germany, however.

CAVEAT: Since I am not a wheel expert and only studied their website, do not take my word for gospel!

Also I could well imagine that BBS do have forged wheels for racing teams. But the generally available street car wheels I thought they are not really forged like says Rays Volkracing. I think Volk is still the gold standard when it comes to "forged".

02-03-2013, 09:07 AM	#11
adprokid Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: ZN6 / GDB-G Location: Far Posts: 589 Thanks: 710 Thanked 263 Times in 133 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Nice lineup of wheels, but I wonder what kind of weights and strength they offer for that price ? Last edited by adprokid; 02-03-2013 at 09:17 AM.

02-03-2013, 09:07 PM	#13
seven Tells it like it is Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: SS1LE \| F150 Diesel \| Civic \| S3 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 823 Thanks: 62 Thanked 279 Times in 122 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	In short, it's become popular lately for "boutique" wheels for people with a lot of money who don't really want anything other than good looking wheels for a high end car that they can brag about... Out of this you see companies like ISS, Iforged, ADV1, etc. The wheels that were around 5-10 years ago (or longer) are the brands I'd look at, if you want race-worthy forged wheels... CCW, HRE, RAYS, BBS, etc. That being said, I run cheap street wheels because if they get crubed its cheap to replace and I don't think people are as likely to steal them. So I run BBS LM replicas from ESM wheels, called the "004" model wheel in 18x9. For race I run Enkei RPF1s as they're light and cheap and come in 17x9. If I had crazy money I'd run CCW classics probably. edit - My opinion is, unless you have a ton of money (which if so, why not buy a Lotus Elise? lol), or are trying to win car shows, but whatever is cheap and light to race on... and buy whatever you like to LOOK AT most for street. __________________ -Seven \|\| youtube.com/turnsevenvideo 2012 C6 Grand Sport 4LT 2015 Mazda 3i-T/Tech

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ebphoto Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S, NA8, S13 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 394 Thanks: 21 Thanked 201 Times in 91 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	its a custom ordered forged wheel. seen a few pictures around but nothing else on them at all really..?

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OjiGeorge Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: White 2013 FRS Location: Langley, BC Posts: 450 Thanks: 441 Thanked 146 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That wheel is... wow!

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CircuitJerk Pull my finger... Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Silver Scion Slushbox Location: Illinois Posts: 996 Thanks: 476 Thanked 367 Times in 226 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	They look nice but delicate.

02-02-2013, 05:07 AM	#5
ASSALBERT Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: DC5 Location: Orange County Posts: 53 Thanks: 17 Thanked 33 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	pretty, yes, but they're still overpriced wheels utilizing inferior forgings and barrels that they dont even manufacture themselves, pretty much like all the other overpriced multi piece "forged" wheels you see out on the market today. Go with a true mold forged wheel from the likes of BBS or Rays (Volk Racing) and you cant go wrong.

02-02-2013, 10:17 PM	#6
asia_minor Superleggera Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2016 Mazda MX-5 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 191 Thanks: 72 Thanked 68 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	because race car.

02-02-2013, 10:34 PM	#7
n2oinferno Praise Helix! Join Date: Jan 2011 Drives: Accord 2.0T, Silverado Location: Upstate SC Posts: 2,859 Thanks: 428 Thanked 2,208 Times in 1,072 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I know it's not the quite as pretty and not exactly the same, but if you're looking for a similar design, TSW just came out with a couple of new wheels. They have 5x100 fitment, 18x8 +35 available. 19 too if you want to go extra large. edit: Oops, forgot. This one is called the Jerez. It's part of their rotary forged line.

02-04-2013, 09:56 AM	#14
Tommy_H Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: Toyota GT86 Location: Zurich Switzerland Posts: 16 Thanks: 17 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	On BBS and forged... Just the other day I looked at the BBS German website (which BTW was quite underwhelming I found), and I walked away with the impression that none of the BBS wheels are forged, but are cast with flow-forming technology. They are Made in Germany, however. CAVEAT: Since I am not a wheel expert and only studied their website, do not take my word for gospel! Also I could well imagine that BBS do have forged wheels for racing teams. But the generally available street car wheels I thought they are not really forged like says Rays Volkracing. I think Volk is still the gold standard when it comes to "forged".

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