Direct Injector Failure Poll - Page 16 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

CSG Mike · 07-09-2013, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denkigrve

I figured this would be on their various autoblogs. There are a metric ton of autoblogs in Japan that tuners/owners run, and this is precisely the thing that would end up on those. I guess no-one has been looking since the problem wasn't as prevalent here in the US.

Were those supposed to be 2012? That might shoot my materials idea out of the window.

Ooops.

Yes, 2012.

bestwheelbase · 07-09-2013, 06:26 PM

Thanks @CSG Mike for posting the info from Stu on gt86ownersclub.co.uk. Great info! This needs to be highlighted and stickied. Hopefully some of the South African members can keep us posted on whether this updated software fixes the issue.

Anaxilus · 07-09-2013, 07:31 PM

Just heard back from a friend at Lexus after showing him the pics from the RSA TSB. Apparently the injectors on the IS actually use two nylon collars where the pics here indicate only one.

ft_sjo · 07-10-2013, 02:59 AM

The thing is, all our cars will do this. They will all 'suffer' this. You just have to drive it in the 'right' way to make it happen.

The changes in calibration previously mentioned does not fix all the det issues. I get transient det if I slip the clutch slightly on changes, at any engine speed. Thing is, not all det is evil. I'm keen to find out what the composition of the cylinders are though, does anyone know? Is it some kind of coated aluminium?

That Stu guy is a legend. I vote sticky!

track_warrior · 07-10-2013, 07:39 PM

I really hope its an easy factory ecu flash fix.

regal · 07-11-2013, 08:27 AM

My car has started giving a fairly loud exhaust cam sound coming right from the back of the engine above 5k remp in 3rd gear. I think its just the sound tube but who knows.

I am about to buy a tune and be done with it, the more I research this issue it goes further than the shifting. Tuners are reporting half as much knock overall vs the factory tune with their datalogging. WRX/STI owners all report an aftermarket tune is a must for engine reliability. Doubt this boxer is any different.

track_warrior · 07-31-2013, 12:18 PM

Bump for trying to collect more votes.

track_warrior · 08-04-2013, 04:24 PM

Seems like the number keeps rising

Lonewolf · 08-04-2013, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by track_warrior

Seems like the number keeps rising

Don't worry, I've been assured that we are all just paranoid doom-mongers...and should just accept these failures as a way of life....

suaveflooder · 08-04-2013, 06:41 PM

I check them often. Been the same for awhile. I keep expecting them to go up, but they really aren't much

thill · 08-05-2013, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suaveflooder

I check them often. Been the same for awhile. I keep expecting them to go up, but they really aren't much

I think there were like 18 or so when I first saw this thread, and now there are 24.

I just checked and there are 37,729 registered members here at this site. Just using that as a baseline that would mean that .00063611545% of registered members have reported the issue

suaveflooder · 08-05-2013, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thill

I think there were like 18 or so when I first saw this thread, and now there are 24.

I just checked and there are 37,729 registered members here at this site. Just using that as a baseline that would mean that .00063611545% of registered members have reported the issue

Dammit!!! I'm selling my car!!

Lonewolf · 08-05-2013, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thill

I think there were like 18 or so when I first saw this thread, and now there are 24.

I just checked and there are 37,729 registered members here at this site. Just using that as a baseline that would mean that .00063611545% of registered members have reported the issue

Many registered forum members don't have the car yet. Further, some members aren't even past break-in either...your interpretation of the numbers is misleading.

thill · 08-05-2013, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Many registered forum members don't have the car yet. Further, some members aren't even past break-in either...your interpretation of the numbers is misleading.

Sure, lots of variables. You can also have people register and claim they had a DI issue and never even owned the car.

The number is most definitely higher than .0006%, but I would be shocked if it was higher than half a percent.

View Poll Results: Have you had an issue with your Direct Injection System?
I have had a DI issue and was fixed under warranty (Subaru)	10	12.35%
I had a DI issue that caused Engine Failure and was fixed under warranty (Subaru)	2	2.47%
I have had a DI issue and was fixed under warranty (Toyota)	31	38.27%
I have had a DI issue that caused Engine Failure and was fixed under warranty (Toyota)	3	3.70%
I have had a DI issue and denied warranty by (Subaru)	7	8.64%
I have had a DI issue and denied warranty by (Toyota)	14	17.28%
I had a DI issue that caused Engine Failure and was Denied warranty (Subaru)	8	9.88%
I had a DI issue that caused Engine Failure and was Denied warranty (Toyota)	6	7.41%
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll

07-10-2013, 07:39 PM	#215
track_warrior Track Junkie Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: Faster than the Stig! Location: TX Posts: 1,338 Thanks: 530 Thanked 770 Times in 363 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I really hope its an easy factory ecu flash fix. __________________ Compensating a heavy car with horsepower is like giving an alcoholic cocaine to sober him up...

07-11-2013, 08:27 AM	#216
regal Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion FR-S/Toyota Yaris Location: PA Posts: 1,438 Thanks: 21 Thanked 316 Times in 232 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My car has started giving a fairly loud exhaust cam sound coming right from the back of the engine above 5k remp in 3rd gear. I think its just the sound tube but who knows. I am about to buy a tune and be done with it, the more I research this issue it goes further than the shifting. Tuners are reporting half as much knock overall vs the factory tune with their datalogging. WRX/STI owners all report an aftermarket tune is a must for engine reliability. Doubt this boxer is any different. __________________ 2013 FRS Argento Silver 6MT Mods: Clear fender side lights Tactrix ZA1JB01C 2014 Calib

07-31-2013, 12:18 PM	#217
track_warrior Track Junkie Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: Faster than the Stig! Location: TX Posts: 1,338 Thanks: 530 Thanked 770 Times in 363 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Bump for trying to collect more votes. __________________ Compensating a heavy car with horsepower is like giving an alcoholic cocaine to sober him up...

08-04-2013, 04:24 PM	#218
track_warrior Track Junkie Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: Faster than the Stig! Location: TX Posts: 1,338 Thanks: 530 Thanked 770 Times in 363 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Seems like the number keeps rising __________________ Compensating a heavy car with horsepower is like giving an alcoholic cocaine to sober him up...

07-09-2013, 06:26 PM	#212
bestwheelbase Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 1985 P-Type Location: Nashville, TN, USA Posts: 3,710 Thanks: 3,273 Thanked 2,058 Times in 1,098 Posts Mentioned: 50 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Thanks @CSG Mike for posting the info from Stu on gt86ownersclub.co.uk. Great info! This needs to be highlighted and stickied. Hopefully some of the South African members can keep us posted on whether this updated software fixes the issue.

07-09-2013, 07:31 PM	#213
Anaxilus Banned Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: They have four wheels Location: United States Posts: 482 Thanks: 59 Thanked 199 Times in 114 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just heard back from a friend at Lexus after showing him the pics from the RSA TSB. Apparently the injectors on the IS actually use two nylon collars where the pics here indicate only one.

07-10-2013, 02:59 AM	#214
ft_sjo Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: GT86 Location: The Motherland Posts: 1,398 Thanks: 140 Thanked 473 Times in 271 Posts Mentioned: 22 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The thing is, all our cars will do this. They will all 'suffer' this. You just have to drive it in the 'right' way to make it happen. The changes in calibration previously mentioned does not fix all the det issues. I get transient det if I slip the clutch slightly on changes, at any engine speed. Thing is, not all det is evil. I'm keen to find out what the composition of the cylinders are though, does anyone know? Is it some kind of coated aluminium? That Stu guy is a legend. I vote sticky!

08-04-2013, 06:41 PM	#220
suaveflooder Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: San Diego Posts: 2,295 Thanks: 2,708 Thanked 1,052 Times in 664 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I check them often. Been the same for awhile. I keep expecting them to go up, but they really aren't much

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