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Old 07-25-2013, 07:03 PM   #925
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Not trying to be a ****, but nitrous is just as safe as this, likely will be cheaper.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:10 PM   #926
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I must just just be stupid and have never built cars with power.

I'm all for alternative and cool new things, but the few pages I've read are full of people who buy turbonators and eBay "performance chips".

It's a bit disheartening.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:31 PM   #927
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I've been converted, the gain/price ratio makes this a damn good deal, and I see a potential new trend for that particular product. Great work!
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Not trying to be a ****, but nitrous is just as safe as this, likely will be cheaper.
The one person that ran nitrous on this forum blew their engine when their clutch slipped.

To do nitrous properly it is at least 1000 bucks plus 80 or so a fill for 2 minutes of fun.

With this system I NEVER have to fill up. I have bagged every single day. I guarantee I would have went through 10 or 20 bottles already. Not to mention the invonvience of getting to a shop to fill it up.

Yes nitrous can be done just no one here has been able to do it properly yet.... I am out there everyday proving this system out, torturing it as best I can

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hey fenton is this race against the focus st using the exact same kit that dynoed 205hp? or has has it been upgraded since?
would love to see a stock s2000 as it's as torqueless as the FRS.

thanks for doing requested videos dude, seriously!
Yes exact same kit. This was when the engine was cold still. We found cycling the batteries 3 or 4 times produced more and more power. Our 206hp run was on the third consecutive.

No problem on the videos I'm really trying to test thing out so all those that buy it in the future know what they are getting Right now that is worry free 40 HP that obliterates the torque dip by adding 80tq in the valley.

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Yes exact same kit. This was when the engine was cold still. We found cycling the batteries 3 or 4 times produced more and more power. Our 206hp run was on the third consecutive.

No problem on the videos I'm really trying to test thing out so all those that buy it in the future know what they are getting Right now that is worry free 40 HP that obliterates the torque dip by adding 80tq in the valley.

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you are running a tune though right? or nothing?
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Yes I am

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I must just just be stupid and have never built cars with power.

I'm all for alternative and cool new things, but the few pages I've read are full of people who buy turbonators and eBay "performance chips".

It's a bit disheartening.
If you aren't going to read the actual thread, don't comment on it. So far a powerchip offers more use than your last two posts, no offense.

Nitrous is just as safe? Umm, no...

I'm looking at the Innovate kit myself but this is a great project. Major auto manus and F1 have been working on using motors to spool snails for the past few years and are going to be implementing them next year in F1. You will be seeing this tech on the street soon so its cool this forum/thread puts the 86 right at the cutting edge. Anyone not taking this seriously is simply ignorant or completely out of touch w/ the automotive world in its current state.

Never confuse a bad implementation as an argument against a good idea.
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Anyone that wants to see what's possible with ~1650$ need look no further than page 1. Anyone with questions please review the dunno charts on page one for proof of concept.

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I must just just be stupid and have never built cars with power.

I'm all for alternative and cool new things, but the few pages I've read are full of people who buy turbonators and eBay "performance chips".

It's a bit disheartening.
Please take a look at page 1 for dynos. 40 HP peak and 80tq in the dip.

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I think it's a great idea, but I'd argue the point of added weight compared to the gains in relation to the cost and limitations.

Cost to gain ratio is far better with other applications.

Your innovate is one of those. You said yourself that they are using these as aids to other systems, not the only thing.

I'm providing another perspective, no need to throw insults.
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I think it's a great idea, but I'd argue the point of added weight compared to the gains in relation to the cost and limitations.

Cost to gain ratio is far better with other applications.

Your innovate is one of those. You said yourself that they are using these as aids to other systems, not the only thing.

I'm providing another perspective, no need to throw insults.
dude how about you read the whole thread before making ignorant posts?!
added weight? are you talking about the 10 lbs added that yield 40hp and 80tq?
cost to gain ratio is far better in other applications? NO OTHER FI system costs less than $3,500 for this car while this kit might cost around $1,500 or less. you've been watching too much fast and the furious, NOS is for drag racing, you need to refill constantly, it kills your engine and it's not a good option for the streets.

Nothing you are talking about makes sense, don't be surprised if people get upset about your post that are so wrong.
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some people can't read for shit.
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no need to throw insults.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you, so you should probably just stop talking now.
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