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06-04-2012, 08:54 PM | #15 |
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you are coming across as preaching a religion and apologizing for the lack of power and torque. In this respect, you're only making the situation worse. So it's no wonder you're afraid to make comparisons. What about those who want to take a critical look at the car and it's position in the market place? You should have said, you have nothing to say to them as well. Why shouldn't prospective buyers take a comparative look at what different manufactures offer in this segment of the market? You obviously have nothing to say to people who want to take the considered and rational approach. You want people to be an ostrich like you, with your head firmly buried in the sand.
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So with the Eclipse, FR-S, and the Ninja, my garage will be complete. But I will always be improving them.
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All I am saying is that I am seeing all these comparative articles making hard objective races and stats, and almost sounding like if the FRS was something else, this barely even when the cars are coming out into the public. I just wanted to assure folks that this car has its own attributes besides the benchmark numbers, something intrinsic that justifies the costs of ownership, and a very good set of them, to keep people happy. It's just a counterpoint to those who only see cars in 0-60 times, and lateral G specs... Besides, all those things can be had with enough resources and personal plans to change what came out of the factory, as modifications and tire changes, and a million other ways to individualize it. And as such this car also is a great platform for all of this with the elements like ease of access and changes for smaller sub-components, and also the ultra rigid uni-body that's not common to cars of this price range. So please don't take it with such threats... I don't mean this to be a huge insult to anyone LOOKING at the numbers, to make his choices. I am merely elaborating on other neat attributes of the car. I don't apologize for the power output, as engineers and product planning gave us exactly the numbers they promised, give or take a few in different test results at times. But that is again, another variable that happens on every car, as no climate, environment, air, and conditions are the same when testing machines in a real world.
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Yes, my other cars right now are Lexus LS430, and Prius, as well as in the past having owned over 23 cars over 26 years since I obtained my driver's license. From BMW M3 to 2002's, multiple AE86's, S13, VW Jetta, to Porsche, Minivans and Big duallie trucks to haul my toys at certain stages of my motorsports career and events organizer. I'm still fascinated by all sorts of cars. And with a broader love and perspective, hard stats just became less important to me, and have never been the only reason to keep it over other elements.
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Here comparison! http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6776 |
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Another astounding post brought to you by one of the FT86clubs finest, but the real question is... where did you get those wheels eh?
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a religion is when everyone worship a single divine/car but this car is making a new culture which people are excited of also what is coming. i have an frs now but 10 years down the road im not gonna bash on the car from Honda that is born from my car, lusting maybe. also a religion/cult will not recognize anything else but as an frs owner i still want a range rover to go offroad, a gtr to track and hell a lambo to flash. those are the cars that are leading in their own worlds, different world than the frs/brz/gt86 world. |
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As soon as I heard about this car, before I saw the concept, I wanted it.
Then I saw the concept, and knowing it wouldnt be exactly like the concept, I definitely wanted it. When I saw the finished product, I had to have it. And driving it around, I am glad I have it. Big fan of Toyota, loved the lines on my Celica, and this car is sexy as hell. The history, the community that has developed around Scion in the US is pretty cool too. |
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