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Old 08-16-2018, 09:11 PM   #141
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This is the Fiero revenge on the Corvette.
I said in an earlier post they should bring it out as the Cadillac Fiero. I think that would be perfect. Or maybe the Chevy Chevette II
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Old 08-16-2018, 09:51 PM   #142
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This is the 2019 mid-engine Chevy Corvette

I'm thinking if there's truly a big push against evolution from the customer base, why not take the Corvette go back to its roots and put in a silky smooth straight 6? You don't need a V8 to make power anymore anyway.
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I'm thinking if there's truly a big push against evolution from the customer base, why not take the Corvette go back to its roots and put in a silky smooth straight 6? You don't need a V8 to make power anymore anyway.
Six cylinders work for several supercars like the NSX, GTR, Ford GT Supercar, Porsche, Jaguar XJ220... it could happen.
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I said in an earlier post they should bring it out as the Cadillac Fiero. I think that would be perfect. Or maybe the Chevy Chevette II
I looked for a picture of a Fiero with a big wang yesterday but didn't find anything I liked. Didn't GM stick a Citation powerplant in the back of the Fiero?


They should call it the Corvation.
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Old 08-17-2018, 02:12 AM   #145
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I think a lot of you guys are missing some points with a few things here.


For starters, GM deferring the mid engine project in the mid 2000's because of financial trouble does not mean that a mid engine layout is inherently more expensive. It simply means they wanted to save costs by extending use of the basic architecture from the C5 a little longer, which is exactly what they did with the C7. Making small improvements to something that is already in place is cheaper than developing a whole new platform but that logic can't be bridged to the conclusion that there is much difference between the cost of a brand new front/mid or rear/mid platform. Every now and then, car companies do a major redesign on their platforms and it costs a lot of money. GM simply chose to defer this at the time but it really had nothing to do with some fake difference between the cost of front/mid vs. rear/mid.


Next, there is no golden rule that a mid engine car with supercar performance has to be well into the six figure range. The Audi R8 that sells nowhere near as many units as a Corvette was $130,000 not too long ago. It also has a badge associated with affluence and paying for a name. The NSX with all of its crazy tech is $150,000.


Corvette's claim to fame has always been world beating performance at a fraction of the price. I would expect around $120,000 for the base ZR1 but there's no reason to believe a Z06 or GS couldn't be in the $80-90,000 range with the lowest base model sitting around $60,000. They could sell in sufficient quantities to pull this off and they have proven time and time again that the rules of exotic supercar pricing do not apply to the Chevrolet Corvette.


The strongest evidence supporting this is the simple fact that they're working on it at all. If this is indeed a Corvette, and not some flagship Cadillac or more exclusive sibling that shares nothing but a name, pricing will remain consistent with what a Corvette has always been. It may sell more expensively at first, and along side the current C7 but sooner or later, their game plan will be a $60,000 mid engine base Corvette. The bean counters and their current success near that price point simply wouldn't allow anything else.
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:16 AM   #146
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I find the comment section on this video really interesting, no need to even watch the TSN Motoring '97 segment.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ngcThsTpis[/ame]
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Six cylinders work for several supercars like the NSX, GTR, Ford GT Supercar, Porsche, Jaguar XJ220... it could happen.
Not an apples comparison though. The Ford GT is being sold in such limited numbers that it doesn't matter how many cylinders it has - it'll sell. Jaguar XJ220 was supposed to be a V12 but they switched to a TT V6 over packaging issues. And that resulted in most prospective buyers, who had already paid deposits, suing Jaguar to get their money back. That plus the occurrence of a recession resulted in the XJ220 being a huge flop, with Jaguar take years to find buyers for a few hundred units, all at significant discounts (6 figure discounts).

Porsche has steeped racing heritage for their flat 6, but the last super/hypercar they sold with 6 cylinders was the 959. You can argue the Turbo is a supercar - but that's always had a 6 cylinder. Likewise the GTR has always been a 6 cylinder. When it took a big price leap with the R35 it stayed 6 cylinders. The comparison you're trying to make is that the GTR would have been successful if it switched to 4 cylinders.
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I find the comment section on this video really interesting, no need to even watch the TSN Motoring '97 segment.

Now I understand the Chevette reference that @Dadhawk made. I didn't know that about the Fiero front end.

Hey, if it works, it works. Dadhawk hated his Chevette. I loved mine.
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I think Yoshoobaro was making a crack at anyone claiming it wouldn’t be a Corvette without it being FR, or a crack at the purists who would whine if it was MR, by reminding them there was a straight six Corvette at one point too. And my post was just a further poke at the purists that Chevy should because there are a number of successful six cylinder supercars, inciting fears that the Corvette will folow in the footsteps of the Ford GT or other downsized supercars.

Any purists getting their feathers ruffled yet?
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I looked for a picture of a Fiero with a big wang yesterday but didn't find anything I liked. Didn't GM stick a Citation powerplant in the back of the Fiero?.
How about this Fiero?

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How about this Fiero?
That's a Lambiero. Looks like a Pantera.
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Six cylinders work for several supercars like the NSX, GTR, Ford GT Supercar, Porsche, Jaguar XJ220... it could happen.
straight sixes make for great engines but bad cars. they are very long and force weight to the ends of a car where it hinders performance in any direction other than forward.
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straight sixes make for great engines but bad cars. they are very long and force weight to the ends of a car where it hinders performance in any direction other than forward.
Huh? Because the Skyline, Supra and BMW’s were/are terrible at performance...?

You must think those Lambos n Ferraris with their V12’s are twice as terrible.
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Huh? Because the Skyline, Supra and BMW’s were/are terrible at performance...?

You must think those Lambos n Ferraris with their V12’s are twice as terrible.
i mean, the skyline and bmws both have v engines. as do lambo and ferrari so i dont really know what your point is.
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