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Old 05-21-2013, 09:19 PM   #85
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Yep, taking the deal and buying the car.
Congrats on your new car! Enjoy it!
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:29 PM   #86
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Stay classy. Nice job...
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:38 PM   #87
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Yep, taking the deal and buying the car.
Sellout!

JK Glad you got a good deal and can put all this mess behind you
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:44 PM   #88
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I follow your logic. I really don't want to repeat this process again. I'm sure sure I taught the guy a lesson. I would have been amazingly embarrassed to have to tell my boss I did something like that.
Unless he was talking to his boss about the sale on the voicemail... Just saying.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:15 PM   #89
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I used to work at a Toyota dealership and I got to see many cenarios where salesmen did dumb things such as your situation and once the GM or owner found out they made the salesman feel like the size of an ant then the GM or owner took care of the matter themselfs to make it right. I know most people would say don't give them the sale but if you realize that the cards are in you favor now so IMHO I would give them the sale to get a great deal.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:19 PM   #90
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Honestly, I would guess the average car salesman lasts about 2-3 months tops. For most of these guys these jobs are just filler and the bad ones get moved out of the system ASAP, while the good ones stick around and get moved into sales manager/finance/etc.
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Who cares, I guarantee everyone here has mocked someone else and for probably the same shallow type reasons. Don't cheat him out of his right to be human and I wouldn't have risked his job over it, you don't know how shitty(or good) his life is. You handled it well, being insulted entitles you to nothing, but lady luck was on your side and you got something nice. This reminds me of people that expect five star restaurant service at fast food joints. Oh damn you didn't get your taco because the teenager or single mom behind the counter was stressed and messed up. You cannot punish them worse than the job they have.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:39 PM   #92
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@BadMoon - It appears you got the deal you wanted, if the salesperson irked you that much, can you switch to another sales associate at the same dealer to seal the deal? It would appear that you could explain to the current salesperson that based on the phone message, you would prefer to finalize the deal with someone else; with the understanding that you will not go to the GM about the phone message. All the other prior negotiated items (trade-ins, add-ons, etc.) were approved by a sales manager, so it shouldn't be difficult.

You shouldn't reward bad behavior, and his lesson will be a lost commission for his mistake. This would hopefully avoid any quilt you may have about getting someone fired if you did go to the GM.

Best of luck with your purchase. BTW, my advice is to install carseat protection mats prior to installing your child seats. My kids love using the rear seats as a step getting into their booster seats. Should save wear and tear (and dirt) on your rear seats.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:47 PM   #93
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The sales manager already assigned himself and another rep to my case. I will post more thoughts tomorrow. The deal isn't done yet for them. It's just starting.
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@Nevermore got it right, along with a few others expressing similar sentiments.

As for the rest of you…

Sit with the following Pascal quote and ponder what the writer says about Life, Human Nature, and The Human Condition. Some of you may need to ponder this phenomenon for some time, possibly a decade, even. And then, IF you HAVE any PRINCIPLES, you will feel properly ashamed of yourselves ... for seeking to crucify some poor guy whose only offense was to accidentally sit on his phone.

And if you do not EAVESDROP on conversations not intended for your ears, then your tender ears will not be burning, will they! God almighty!


“If all men knew what each said of the other, there would not be four friends in the world.” –Blaise Pascal (French mathematician, physicist, writer, and philosopher. 1623-1662)

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@Nevermore got it right, along with a few others expressing similar sentiments.

As for the rest of you…

Sit with the following Pascal quote and ponder what the writer says about Life, Human Nature, and The Human Condition. Some of you may need to ponder this phenomenon for some time, possibly a decade, even. And then, IF you HAVE any PRINCIPLES, you will feel properly ashamed of yourselves ... for seeking to crucify some poor guy whose only offense was to accidentally sit on his phone.

And if you do not EAVESDROP on conversations not intended for your ears, then your tender ears will not be burning, will they! God almighty!


“If all men knew what each said of the other, there would not be four friends in the world.” –Blaise Pascal (French mathematician, physicist, writer, and philosopher. 1623-1662)

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Well aren't you all high and mighty.

There are consequences for talking behind peoples' backs. Most of the time nothing happens.

And some of the time, the target finds out. In any customer-facing industry, that's grounds for a reprimand if not termination if the offense is serious enough. Yes, complaining about customers is a time-honored tradition in the service industry. That doesn't make it ethical or correct. To claim that "his only offense was sitting on his phone" is a laughable proposition.

The salesman has nobody to blame but himself.

OP did the right thing by bringing it to the attention of the salesman's superior. At the very least, he is well within his rights to ensure that particular salesman is not getting a single dime of his money.
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Hmm, well first off, this is not a sports car, it is a go kart and second, red will only get you noticed by cops so save up for your first ticket.

I regards to my go kart comment... I mean this in the best possible way, go karts are fun and so is this car.

I hope you can turn this insult into a better deal on the car, but honestly if they don't sell it to you, then some other asshole with a wife and 2 kids is going to buy it, so don't start feeling too entitled.
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Hmm, well first off, this is not a sports car, it is a go kart and second, red will only get you noticed by cops so save up for your first ticket.

I regards to my go kart comment... I mean this in the best possible way, go karts are fun and so is this car.

I hope you can turn this insult into a better deal on the car, but honestly if they don't sell it to you, then some other asshole with a wife and 2 kids is going to buy it, so don't start feeling too entitled.
Not a sports car? Not sure if serious....
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Hmm, well first off, this is not a sports car, it is a go kart and second, red will only get you noticed by cops so save up for your first ticket.

I regards to my go kart comment... I mean this in the best possible way, go karts are fun and so is this car.

I hope you can turn this insult into a better deal on the car, but honestly if they don't sell it to you, then some other asshole with a wife and 2 kids is going to buy it, so don't start feeling too entitled.
there is so much wrong with this post that I don't know where to start
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