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Old 02-17-2017, 12:41 PM   #15
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So you thinking buying a base FRS and then adding thousands of dollars in parts (headlights, seats, push start) along with a complete custom paint job is the better route to take?

After all that you would have over 10k dumped into the car not including any kind of performance modifications. Not everyone has that kind of money to burn on a relatively new car.


well here, lemme help you out.

RS 1.0 - Stock $19 - $21k w/headlights, seats etc..
Base Frs - roughly $13k - $16k (depends on where you buy)


With the additional $4k-$6k you can get a better lip kit painted, rims, headlights, or save it for future mod. You don't HAVE to dump 10k in a year. It can be a total of 3-5 years and surely you will have a better looking car than the RS 1.0 series.


All I'm saying is IMO I would rather self mod a car rather than buying a packaged car knowing I will mod it later in the future. Also what are the chances of someone owning a FRS/BRZ not modifying it?
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well here, lemme help you out.

RS 1.0 - Stock $19 - $21k w/headlights, seats etc..
Base Frs - roughly $13k - $16k (depends on where you buy)


With the additional $4k-$6k you can get a better lip kit painted, rims, headlights, or save it for future mod. You don't HAVE to dump 10k in a year. It can be a total of 3-5 years and surely you will have a better looking car than the RS 1.0 series.


All I'm saying is IMO I would rather self mod a car rather than buying a packaged car knowing I will mod it later in the future. Also what are the chances of someone owning a FRS/BRZ not modifying it?


Your argument is groundless. Just. Stop. You're not even touching the things like dual climate control and the unique exhaust etc.


On another view you could buy a genuine RS with a unique color and sell the bodykit parts for a decent chunk of change and then you're not out any money when you modify to "better looking" parts. Oh, and you STILL have the color and interior appointments. If you don't see the value in certain versions ok, but what you're saying has no grounding.


You say you bought a 2017 86, why didn't you just buy a 2013 and modify it better instead of spending the money on a new car? - Same argument....basically.
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:49 PM   #17
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I would take the NC Miata Club Edition over the RS 1.0 if it is in similar condition/mileage and comes with a power hardtop and Bilstein shocks, but then I'm not really a fan of steering wheel controls.
I will be test driving it this weekend to see if I fit well. I like that the FRS has some creature comforts, space, and adjustability. But yeah, similar mileage.
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Lets all just chill, I see what Clee is saying. Building your own FRS up can be rewarding. The 1.0 is not for everyone. Honestly, I wish it werent yellow, but otherwise she is a looker.
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well here, lemme help you out.

RS 1.0 - Stock $19 - $21k w/headlights, seats etc..
Base Frs - roughly $13k - $16k (depends on where you buy)


With the additional $4k-$6k you can get a better lip kit painted, rims, headlights, or save it for future mod. You don't HAVE to dump 10k in a year. It can be a total of 3-5 years and surely you will have a better looking car than the RS 1.0 series.


All I'm saying is IMO I would rather self mod a car rather than buying a packaged car knowing I will mod it later in the future. Also what are the chances of someone owning a FRS/BRZ not modifying it?
You are not going to find a clean title FRS with low mileage for 13k, I promise.

Also, your math is way off.

Complete paint job - 6k minimum
OEM 86 headlights - 1k
OEM push-start/climate control - 1k
Seats - 800
TRD wheel - 200

Roughly 9k, and that's being conservative and not counting exhaust, or lip kits.

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Lets all just chill, I see what Clee is saying. Building your own FRS up can be rewarding. The 1.0 is not for everyone. Honestly, I wish it werent yellow, but otherwise she is a looker.
If you want a yellow 86, it would be silly not to buy a clean RS 1.0 if you can find one. If you don't like the yellow I wouldn't recommend buying the car.
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You are not going to find a clean title FRS with low mileage for 13k, I promise.

Also, your math is way off.

Complete paint job - 6k minimum
OEM 86 headlights - 1k
OEM push-start/climate control - 1k
Seats - 800
TRD wheel - 200

Roughly 9k, and that's being conservative and not counting exhaust, or lip kits.



If you want a yellow 86, it would be silly not to buy a clean RS 1.0 if you can find one. If you don't like the yellow I wouldn't recommend buying the car.
Still deciding on the color, honestly. It pops in certain light.
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Still deciding on the color, honestly. It pops in certain light.


I read in this thread that full color paint jobs are easy enough......
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I read in this thread that full color paint jobs are easy enough......
Haha, thanks. And thanks for all the info everyone!
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You are not going to find a clean title FRS with low mileage for 13k, I promise.
Guess it depends on what you mean by low mileage.

A 2013 base FRS in Very Good Condition and 50,000 miles on it shows in KBB as $13.6K Private Sale. One with 25,000 miles on it shows at $15.4K.

Even a 100 to 10,000 mile car in Excellent condition only shows as high as $16,662.

Right in the range @Clee is talking about.
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Guess it depends on what you mean by low mileage.

A 2013 base FRS in Very Good Condition and 50,000 miles on it shows in KBB as $13.6K Private Sale. One with 25,000 miles on it shows at $15.4K.

Even a 100 to 10,000 mile car in Excellent condition only shows as high as $16,662.

Right in the range @Clee is talking about.
There is a difference between KBB and actual market value. If you can find a clean FRS with less than 50k on the clock for 13k I would be very surprised.
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You are not going to find a clean title FRS with low mileage for 13k, I promise.

Also, your math is way off.

Complete paint job - 6k minimum
OEM 86 headlights - 1k
OEM push-start/climate control - 1k
Seats - 800
TRD wheel - 200

Roughly 9k, and that's being conservative and not counting exhaust, or lip kits.



If you want a yellow 86, it would be silly not to buy a clean RS 1.0 if you can find one. If you don't like the yellow I wouldn't recommend buying the car.
OEM 86 headlights - 1k EACH

The price alone of the headlights pretty much makes it worth buying the RS. Unless OP wants to go the route of "upgrading" headlights to winjets, but then there is the quality difference of OEM vs aftermarket.

This sounds like a pretty decent deal to me. OP - if you test drive it and then have a mechanic look at it and everything checks out, I think you should pull the trigger!
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There is a difference between KBB and actual market value. If you can find a clean FRS with less than 50k on the clock for 13k I would be very surprised.
Quick Autotrader search....
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I said clean, not riced.


I would also argue that $13,991 is closer to 14k, but I will admit that I was wrong.
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I said clean, not riced.


I would also argue that 13,991k is closer to 14k, but I will admit that I was wrong.
Didn't see the wing...so point @funwheeldrive on that one.

I'm also going on that if this is the published price I can easily get it for under $13K.
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