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Old 02-17-2017, 11:03 AM   #29
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In 2003 it was just the RX-8 when the NB coupe was in production. The fact that they don't make one now is even more evidence that they don't believe they can make a viable product for that niche.

Production? There has never been a production Miata coupe. Repeating it won't change that.
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The fact that they don't make one now is even more evidence that they don't believe they can make a viable product for that niche.


Which makes me sad, because Mazda makes great drivers cars. I'd even be happy with a new MS3 at this point. :frown:

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Old 02-17-2017, 01:46 PM   #31
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Production? There has never been a production Miata coupe. Repeating it won't change that.
they had limited numbers made for Japan.
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Old 02-18-2017, 12:09 AM   #32
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The MX-5 is a great car, but actually not a huge money maker for a manufacturer.

Mazda spend a lot of time and money engineering the car, and development cost is high for a car that sells limited number worldwide.
"Sport Car" in general don't sell a lot especially at this price point, Mazda makes much more money selling Crossover SUV than the MX-5.
The reason they keep doing it after so long is because it is an image of Mazda with a loyal following.

If you look at other manufacturer, most have "given up" on such a sport car at entry level price.
Toyota no longer makes the MR-S, No more Pontiac Solstice, etc.
The only sport car really left seems to be the higher premium product such as the Boxster, Cayman, Jaguar F-Type, etc.

In terms of the ND, it is good but also a difficult car to work with.
We had loads of problem racing them in the first year, and a lot of the issue been slowly ironed out now.
So 2017 should be a better year of racing for the ND.

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Is it just me or does the MX5 look taller and pudgier because of the sexy roof?
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Just looks that way because of the roof's color. Black always looks lower because it blends into the background of everything.
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RF adds another ~175-200lbs. The big weight advantage isn't so big anymore.
Add 2 extra seats and that will make them equal in weight.
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Good write up in this months Evo magazine, RF vs GT86. GT86 seen as the better sports car, "..there's great pleasure to be had engaging with the drivetrain. It also feels the better-made product, puts you in greater touch with the action and has a greater depth of ability, from its feedback to its willingness to raise its game when you raise yours."

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RF adds another ~175-200lbs. The big weight advantage isn't so big anymore.
the roof added a LOT of aerodynamics and it seems the upper end speed and acceleration is notably improved. RF in machine metal gray looks sick also. Just an awesome looking car.
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Good write up in this months Evo magazine, RF vs GT86. GT86 seen as the better sports car, "..there's great pleasure to be had engaging with the drivetrain. It also feels the better-made product, puts you in greater touch with the action and has a greater depth of ability, from its feedback to its willingness to raise its game when you raise yours."
Interesting. Given the price point and intended audience, I would've expected the Miata RF to show better quality.
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Interesting. Given the price point and intended audience, I would've expected the Miata RF to show better quality.


It sounds like a lot of people are unhappy with the roof mechanism. The location of the button, and the time it takes to put the roof down. IIRC, you can't adjust the roof while the car is in motion. I could be wrong though.
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Interesting. Given the price point and intended audience, I would've expected the Miata RF to show better quality.


In the UK they sit very close on price but will attract a different type of buyer. I think the Twin especially the BRZ variety is heading down a niche market with only circa 550 sold in the UK since 2012..
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Not good news for the next generation... Or maybe the pricing in UK is just too high for the 86? How does the pricing compare to something like a hot hatch?

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