Consumer Report now lists the FR-S and BRZ as "Unreliable Vehicles"!

[dnieves]

Originally Posted by FT86Insider

i didn't know that consumer reports was still around. either way, it wouldn't have affected my decision to purchase the car in any way.

Of course they're still around, they have three review issues every month: New cars, SUVs, and appliances (which rotates with electronics).

[FT86Insider]

i know that ... i was being facetious!
have a great weekend!

Originally Posted by dnieves

Of course they're still around, they have three review issues every month: New cars, SUVs, and appliances (which rotates with electronics).

[dnieves]

Originally Posted by FT86Insider

i know that ... i was being facetious!
have a great weekend!

Hahaha! Consumer Reports is for people that don't know how to use Google to do their own research.

[racecat]

Maybe I just haven't had mine long enough yet (since May) or I got it after they worked out some of the bugs, but I haven't heard any rattling or chirping. I'm at about 5k miles now.

Either way, my problem with the review is that the reliability of the twins is being judged on things that really don't have anything to do with reliability...quality, sure. But a crappy head unit or harmless chirping isn't going to leave you stranded on the side of the road. I don't get how those things fit the reliability category.

I love my car and I'll drive it as long as I can, shortcomings and all.

[twag4]

Originally Posted by mwjcyber

No Ethanol-free fuel in New Mexico. Please understand your recommendation isn't valid for most people.

Fortunately new HPFP just released finally fixes the crickets.

I have the latest and greatest HPFP, and my crickets returned yesterday.

[ZionsWrath]

Originally Posted by racecat

Maybe I just haven't had mine long enough yet (since May) or I got it after they worked out some of the bugs, but I haven't heard any rattling or chirping. I'm at about 5k miles now.

Either way, my problem with the review is that the reliability of the twins is being judged on things that really don't have anything to do with reliability...quality, sure. But a crappy head unit or harmless chirping isn't going to leave you stranded on the side of the road. I don't get how those things fit the reliability category.

I love my car and I'll drive it as long as I can, shortcomings and all.

Precisely, easily warrantied issues that don't leave you completely fuked are very different. Even if every 2013 car had leaky tails and was replaced under warranty, that does't make the car unreliable.

Personally I had 2 issues; leaky lights and GPS. While inconvenient to fix under warranty my car works flawlessly besides that. Now they are fixed I have no complaints.

Maybe I'll get the dreaded check engine TC light but I haven't heard much of that since launch and likely won't get that unless I start hitting the track. Then it kind of becomes a pay to play situation...

[sprintertrueno86]

Hopefully this would make Toyota/Scion/Subaru to start recalling the twins with these minor problems and fix the DI seals.

[DylanFRS]

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

Why do I have to pay Consumer report to view the artical?

Can anyone say sheeple?

Lol... What?

You have to pay for it because consumer reports doesn't receive money from the companies that make the product review. So somehow they have to actually pay for the products they review.

Who do you trust to give an unbiased review?

[DylanFRS]

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

For Automotive.
Car and Driver
Top Gear (UK) ( Biased on American makes only)
Top Gear US
Road and Track

These do not include the numerous other local forms.
Track reviews
Track events
Local Track news papers.
ect.

For everything else, I search product reviews by owners of product.

Yep, none of those are biased at all...

[A&F]

Originally Posted by ae86stunt

For Automotive.
Car and Driver
Top Gear (UK) ( Biased on American makes only)
Top Gear US
Road and Track

These do not include the numerous other local forms.
Track reviews
Track events
Local Track news papers.
ect.

For everything else, I search product reviews by owners of product.

Yes because opinions on how fun a car is, is the same thing as collecting statistical data to build a failure rate analysis.

[A&F]

Originally Posted by sprintertrueno86

Hopefully this would make Toyota/Scion/Subaru to start recalling the twins with these minor problems and fix the DI seals.

Squeaky wheel gets the oil.

[Katapaltes]

Wow.. CR is a great magazine, regardless of hate piled on it by some in this thread. I bought my Mazda P5 11 years ago based in part on CR's rating. The car has been a blast to drive and is amazingly reliable. I guess I could have ignored CR's advice at the time and bought a similar vehicle with poor ratings, and spent my money and time at the dealership.

I want to trade my car in on an FRS/BRZ, but will only do so when reliability improves a bit.

[SoCal909]

Originally Posted by Katapaltes

Wow.. CR is a great magazine, regardless of hate piled on it by some in this thread. I bought my Mazda P5 11 years ago based in part on CR's rating. The car has been a blast to drive and is amazingly reliable. I guess I could have ignored CR's advice at the time and bought a similar vehicle with poor ratings, and spent my money and time at the dealership.

I want to trade my car in on an FRS/BRZ, but will only do so when reliability improves a bit.

Just because the one car you bought based on their review doesn't mean that everything they put out is correct...

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[Spartan65]

Originally Posted by Guff

Guys, if anything, this will just make Toyota and Subaru a bit more keen on fixing whatever small problems we are having.

If you honestly feel Toyota, Scion America are going to do anything you are redefined as a Fan Boi. Subaru of America may resolve issues that ToA and SoA will just leave alone.
Take it from a person that used the state law to return my car. I am a fan boi also, just not a doormat where a dealer can wipe their crappy attitude clean.