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Pbrown · 11-15-2013, 06:30 PM

Bought mine sight unseen. Fell in love with a picture. if anyone paid attention to CR no one would buy a land rover, Mercedes or BMW as all are rated low for upkeep. I'll just buy a louder exhaust to drown out the rattles.

Tromatic · 11-15-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pbrown

Bought mine sight unseen. Fell in love with a picture. if anyone paid attention to CR no one would buy a land rover, Mercedes or BMW as all are rated low for upkeep. I'll just buy a louder exhaust to drown out the rattles.

I do believe 86 owners have the highest percentage of whiners on any owners forum I read or am a member of. Perhaps it's age related. This is the car I never had had the ability to own for one reason or another. Vintage or new, I think this car is a cheap taste of what some "super cars" are. Perhaps the whiners have too many first-world problems?

Has anyone done any comparos of the 86 to a vintage classic?

utekineir · 11-15-2013, 06:45 PM

agree fully that its a fuel pump chirping rattle trap,

consumer reports has it right,

but, long as neither of those issues will leave me sitting on the side of the road i'll make due.

strat61caster · 11-15-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tromatic

Has anyone done any comparos of the 86 to a vintage classic?

I would only compare one or two classics to the 86, thankfully someone agreed with my top choice:

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...13_scion_fr_s/

Tromatic · 11-15-2013, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

I would only compare one or two classics to the 86, thankfully someone agreed with my top choice:

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...13_scion_fr_s/

Had not seen that, thanks. I kick myself in the ass for not bringing one of those home from Japan way back when.

Tromatic · 11-15-2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dnieves

The sample pool needs to be opened up to offset the malcontents and the fanboys.

I wonder where the average poster here falls on that scale? I consider myself to be in the middle, I'm sure that will fuck with some heads. For what it was designed and built to be, it's a fuckin' awesome car.

<Wrong car ---------------------Awesome!--------------How much fucked-up junk can I pop rivet on?>

NWFRS · 11-15-2013, 07:44 PM

Fuel pump will stop chirping within an hour of switching to an ethanol-free fuel.

strat61caster · 11-15-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NWFRS

Fuel pump will stop chirping within an hour of switching to an ethanol-free fuel.

Just an FYI, you shouldn't be guaranteeing that, it helps a lot of owners, but not all.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17889
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...postcount=2242
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=910
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=17

There are more, but I'm not feeling industrious at the moment. Mine went away over time, all E10 fuel.

NWFRS · 11-15-2013, 08:58 PM

Sorry.
FOR MY CAR, switching to an ethanol-free fuel stopped the chirps within an hour. 3000 miles of incessant eye-gouging chirping was stopped by simply switching fuels. For the last 2000 miles I have been savoring sweet silence.

utekineir · 11-15-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NWFRS

Sorry.
FOR MY CAR, switching to an ethanol-free fuel stopped the chirps within an hour. 3000 miles of incessant eye-gouging chirping was stopped by simply switching fuels. For the last 2000 miles I have been savoring sweet silence.

If i had an ethanol free station within 2 hours i'd do that too.

But, I don't.

NWFRS · 11-15-2013, 09:04 PM

Damn. I AM sorry. I hate the idiot lawmakers who mandate such stupid things. I don't read much news so I don't know who to blame for our crap fuel. 90 octane is the highest I can get here without ethanol. I'm sorry man. :-(

mwjcyber · 11-15-2013, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NWFRS

Fuel pump will stop chirping within an hour of switching to an ethanol-free fuel.

No Ethanol-free fuel in New Mexico. Please understand your recommendation isn't valid for most people.

Fortunately new HPFP just released finally fixes the crickets.

Tromatic · 11-15-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mwjcyber

No Ethanol-free fuel in New Mexico. Please understand your recommendation isn't valid for most people.

Fortunately new HPFP just released finally fixes the crickets.

I'm going to wait and see on the new pump.

FT86Insider · 11-17-2013, 12:21 AM

i didn't know that consumer reports was still around. either way, it wouldn't have affected my decision to purchase the car in any way.

11-15-2013, 06:30 PM	#57
Pbrown Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Raven Location: Ottawa Posts: 1,646 Thanks: 1,271 Thanked 1,322 Times in 658 Posts Mentioned: 106 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	would just like to add Bought mine sight unseen. Fell in love with a picture. if anyone paid attention to CR no one would buy a land rover, Mercedes or BMW as all are rated low for upkeep. I'll just buy a louder exhaust to drown out the rattles.

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utekineir blowhard Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: frs, project forester Location: ma Posts: 980 Thanks: 53 Thanked 604 Times in 316 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	agree fully that its a fuel pump chirping rattle trap, consumer reports has it right, but, long as neither of those issues will leave me sitting on the side of the road i'll make due.

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NWFRS Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: ‘13 FRS Location: USA Posts: 1,296 Thanks: 3,945 Thanked 1,502 Times in 634 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Sorry. FOR MY CAR, switching to an ethanol-free fuel stopped the chirps within an hour. 3000 miles of incessant eye-gouging chirping was stopped by simply switching fuels. For the last 2000 miles I have been savoring sweet silence.

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NWFRS Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: ‘13 FRS Location: USA Posts: 1,296 Thanks: 3,945 Thanked 1,502 Times in 634 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Damn. I AM sorry. I hate the idiot lawmakers who mandate such stupid things. I don't read much news so I don't know who to blame for our crap fuel. 90 octane is the highest I can get here without ethanol. I'm sorry man. :-(

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FT86Insider Tood@loo, Muth@fuck@s! Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i didn't know that consumer reports was still around. either way, it wouldn't have affected my decision to purchase the car in any way.

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