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[R0ME0]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

I'll call give them a call later today. Thanks for the heads up. Have you ever bought any of their products/are they pretty decent?

They were at SEMA very similar to DEPOT etc

[civicdrivr]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

My name is Jason...

Damnit. Sorry about that, Im horrible with names.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

Damnit. Sorry about that, Im horrible with names.

No worries, I am bad with names too.

[Dark_Angle]

Yeah Ptuning said that he had a dedicated track car already. He also said that he was just doing small things for now at least until companies such as Cobb(who isn't interested) makes some kind of piggy back or stand alone. To me this means that it could never happen. I would expect that the turbo version of the fr-s will be available by then. At that point they would probably just find someone that has a turbo fr-s. My 2 cents.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by Dark_Angle

Yeah Ptuning said that he had a dedicated track car already. He also said that he was just doing small things for now at least until companies such as Cobb(who isn't interested) makes some kind of piggy back or stand alone. To me this means that it could never happen. I would expect that the turbo version of the fr-s will be available by then. At that point they would probably just find someone that has a turbo fr-s. My 2 cents.

I wouldn't underestimate the following of this car. It hasn't even officially gone on sale and a ton of upgrades are already in the works. Not too mention that the level of excitement that the FRS/BRZ is generating far eclipses the commotion when both the Z returned to the USA and the Evo first arrived here (and you know how many aftermarket parts you can throw at those cars)

Haltech, Greddy, or AEM will have a piggyback unit ready to go sooner than you think.

[kanundrum]

Originally Posted by Dark_Angle

Yeah Ptuning said that he had a dedicated track car already. He also said that he was just doing small things for now at least until companies such as Cobb(who isn't interested) makes some kind of piggy back or stand alone. To me this means that it could never happen. I would expect that the turbo version of the fr-s will be available by then. At that point they would probably just find someone that has a turbo fr-s. My 2 cents.

I don't know about that. I am sure something can be done turbo kit wise.

Honestly that's probably the first thing I am going to talk to them about mainly because they know how to do them and I don't want a greddy kit.

[Dark_Angle]

Dont get me wrong I def. think this car is amazing. I went to the first drive event and it was simply amazing. I have mine on order. I just think it might turn into a situation kind of like the 90's mr2. They didn't and still haven't done anything to the 2.2L mr2. But the turbo model had a lot of options for the simple fact that it was already had a turbo. That is why most owners do swaps. I hope for the best for these guys because I can't wait to buy and install great parts on my fr-s.

[civicdrivr]

Id love a turbo kit, but Im more interested in a supercharger setup (which isnt PTunings thing). But as Tommy with PTuning said, tuning is #1 thing.

Kanundrum definitely has the #1 spot there. I told Tommy my car might see some track days and autocrossing, but I just want to have fun with it and not get too serious. But I did tell him that its not a daily, so they can have it for about a week or so to develop parts on or get measurements.

[kanundrum]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

Id love a turbo kit, but Im more interested in a supercharger setup (which isnt PTunings thing). But as Tommy with PTuning said, tuning is #1 thing.

Kanundrum definitely has the #1 spot there. I told Tommy my car might see some track days and autocrossing, but I just want to have fun with it and not get too serious. But I did tell him that its not a daily, so they can have it for about a week or so to develop parts on or get measurements.

If its centrifugal I will run far far far away from it, enough of that on my scion tC and the hassles. Had it replaced 3 times.

[civicdrivr]

Originally Posted by Dark_Angle

Dont get me wrong I def. think this car is amazing. I went to the first drive event and it was simply amazing. I have mine on order. I just think it might turn into a situation kind of like the 90's mr2. They didn't and still haven't done anything to the 2.2L mr2. But the turbo model had a lot of options for the simple fact that it was already had a turbo. That is why most owners do swaps. I hope for the best for these guys because I can't wait to buy and install great parts on my fr-s.

This may have to do with the fact that the turbo was a better base to build upon. There is no definite plans for a boosted factory FR-S/BRZ. Last I read the STi would be NA and that TRD is working on an accessory s/c'er. I definitely think the tuning will be there for our engine. The aftermarket companies wouldnt drop the ball on something like this.

Originally Posted by kanundrum

If its centrifugal I will run far far far away from it, enough of that on my scion tC and the hassles. Had it replaced 3 times.

Are you the one that mentioned the issues you had, specifically with the pulley, in another thread? If so, there is a pretty big difference between the two cars. The Tc had a shaft that ran the length of the motor due to space. It placed the blower on the transmission side of the engine bay with a shaft running to the accessory belts. The FR-S/BRZ doesnt need that (look at the HKS kit). You can mount the blower right in line with the belts, which should reduce stress on the parts.

I also think that was a horrible manufacturing defect for it to break like that. My friend runs a shop and builds many supercharger kits for the Honda J series. They use the same system as the TC kit, just with an roots blower. He fabricates the shaft, presses the bearings, and fabricates all the brackets himself - the pulley is purchased elsewhere. None have had any issues, and these are build 3.5 and 3.6l engines making north of 400hp at the wheels.

[Lonewolf]

Bump for Spyder Auto...let's get rid of those crappy stock tails!

[kanundrum]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

This may have to do with the fact that the turbo was a better base to build upon. There is no definite plans for a boosted factory FR-S/BRZ. Last I read the STi would be NA and that TRD is working on an accessory s/c'er. I definitely think the tuning will be there for our engine. The aftermarket companies wouldnt drop the ball on something like this.



Are you the one that mentioned the issues you had, specifically with the pulley, in another thread? If so, there is a pretty big difference between the two cars. The Tc had a shaft that ran the length of the motor due to space. It placed the blower on the transmission side of the engine bay with a shaft running to the accessory belts. The FR-S/BRZ doesnt need that (look at the HKS kit). You can mount the blower right in line with the belts, which should reduce stress on the parts.

I also think that was a horrible manufacturing defect for it to break like that. My friend runs a shop and builds many supercharger kits for the Honda J series. They use the same system as the TC kit, just with an roots blower. He fabricates the shaft, presses the bearings, and fabricates all the brackets himself - the pulley is purchased elsewhere. None have had any issues, and these are build 3.5 and 3.6l engines making north of 400hp at the wheels.

actually no, it was at the seals/bearings the super charger unit was produced by Vortech (hence centrifugal) if the TRD unit (from what i read somewhere) is going to be another rebadged vortech unit I would be cautious

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

Are you the one that mentioned the issues you had, specifically with the pulley, in another thread? If so, there is a pretty big difference between the two cars. The Tc had a shaft that ran the length of the motor due to space. It placed the blower on the transmission side of the engine bay with a shaft running to the accessory belts. The FR-S/BRZ doesnt need that (look at the HKS kit). You can mount the blower right in line with the belts, which should reduce stress on the parts.

I also think that was a horrible manufacturing defect for it to break like that. My friend runs a shop and builds many supercharger kits for the Honda J series. They use the same system as the TC kit, just with an roots blower. He fabricates the shaft, presses the bearings, and fabricates all the brackets himself - the pulley is purchased elsewhere. None have had any issues, and these are build 3.5 and 3.6l engines making north of 400hp at the wheels.

From what I got from the scion forums the trd sc was garbage due to the shaft and bearings. After 3 blowouts a forum member fabricated new quality parts and had no more issues.

Is anyone aware of any performance manufacturers that are in the midwest? I'm willing to offer my car up, but I can't find much out here.

[ESBjiujitsu]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

I also think that was a horrible manufacturing defect for it to break like that. My friend runs a shop and builds many supercharger kits for the Honda J series. They use the same system as the TC kit, just with an roots blower. He fabricates the shaft, presses the bearings, and fabricates all the brackets himself - the pulley is purchased elsewhere. None have had any issues, and these are build 3.5 and 3.6l engines making north of 400hp at the wheels.

I agree 100% i did a lot of research and it looked to be a bad design in the shaft.... but i didnt own a TC so..... but the frs will not need a shaft enabling quicker power delivery and the ability to hold more power!!!