Should Toyota's version of the FT-86 be badged a Toyota or Scion in North America? - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Midship Runabout · 02-15-2011, 03:31 PM

^ guys at dealerships don't know shit about future vehicles

matadormi5 · 02-15-2011, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Normous

^ guys at dealerships don't know shit about future vehicles

True. Dealerships rarely know about future product plans unless they are a big-name, high-sale figures one.

Way back when the Infiniti G35 sedan was going to be given AWD. Even though it was suppose to go on sale within the next few months, the dealer still had no idea.

Chokonen888 · 02-15-2011, 11:17 PM

I wonder is it will be rebadged/spec'd/styled for both Scion and Toyota. For example, a base model Scion version and the 2.5L Toyota version. It's already kinda being done with both a Toyota/Suby version, can't hurt to add a FR car to the Scion brand since they are investing in "Scion Racing" so much with FF tC's. Anyhow, the more they use the platform the better and this solution would make everyone happy. (I'm just glad we don't have the Scion brand in Japan haha)

ryun84 · 02-16-2011, 02:09 AM

Man. How great would it be if Toyota just came out after Geneva and said, "Surprise! All that talk about North America getting this car as a Scion was a big joke!" Then we could just browse through all these pages and just laugh. Would be the most epic April Fools joke, too.

Aki · 02-16-2011, 02:46 AM

Since there's no "who cares" option I voted Scion.

I don't care if it's called the Twinkletoes FT-86, I'll still buy it. I mean what's the big deal? If you don't like the Scion badge, get dental floss, take off the emblem, stick Toyota emblem on, done.

As for not liking Scion because it's a "girl's brand" or rice-rocket niche or whatever, I say man up. Are you buying the car to please other people or yourself? I don't care if people think it's as girly as a Miata so long as it's 2600-ish lbs, 200hp and w/ a six-speed tranny. I'm wanting the car for the driving experience, not because I'll look cool in it. If you care about image, buy a used M3 or something.

Dark · 02-16-2011, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aki

Since there's no "who cares" option I voted Scion.

I don't care if it's called the Twinkletoes FT-86, I'll still buy it. I mean what's the big deal? If you don't like the Scion badge, get dental floss, take off the emblem, stick Toyota emblem on, done.

As for not liking Scion because it's a "girl's brand" or rice-rocket niche or whatever, I say man up. Are you buying the car to please other people or yourself? I don't care if people think it's as girly as a Miata so long as it's 2600-ish lbs, 200hp and w/ a six-speed tranny. I'm wanting the car for the driving experience, not because I'll look cool in it. If you care about image, buy a used M3 or something.

Nothing about looking kool when you drive a Toyota, and if brand image doesn't convince you, you can slap Scion badge on it when it comes out as Toyota (maybe L badge because you don't care). Personal preference. With everything said and done, I still choose Toyota or Subaru.

OldSkoolToys · 02-16-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by zigzagz94

Toyota because I'm one of those crazy people who still thinks it should be called a Celica...but that's a whole different poll

Still on this?

Still?

I voted Toyota....because its Toyota.

Matador · 02-16-2011, 11:30 PM

http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011...-s-in-usa.aspx

lol. Read the comments. Gold.

Dimman · 02-16-2011, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011...-s-in-usa.aspx

lol. Read the comments. Gold.

They're quoting the 'Toyobaru' forum as their source. Forfucksakes...

Dark · 02-17-2011, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011...-s-in-usa.aspx

lol. Read the comments. Gold.

that's the best thing I've seen in a long time.

Matador · 02-17-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimman

They're quoting the 'Toyobaru' forum as their source. Forfucksakes...

I know I know... I just linked it for you guys to have a gander at the comment section.

enc0re · 02-17-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aki

Since there's no "who cares" option I voted Scion.

I don't care if it's called the Twinkletoes FT-86, I'll still buy it. I mean what's the big deal? If you don't like the Scion badge, get dental floss, take off the emblem, stick Toyota emblem on, done.

Scion means no factory options beyond the manual/auto choice. Which means I'm that much less likely to get LSD from the factory or a hatch. That's why I care.

matadormi5 · 02-17-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by enc0re

Scion means no factory options beyond the manual/auto choice. Which means I'm that much less likely to get LSD from the factory or a hatch. That's why I care.

I remember the Scion options list being quite long. There's a bunch of exterior and interior accessories. Then there's the TRD add-ons. I'd bet you'd be able spec an LSD under the Scion badge.

zigzagz94 · 02-17-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Still on this?

Still?

I voted Toyota....because its Toyota.

Yep still...

Where you been at I miss our lively debates :happy0180:

View Poll Results: Should the Toyota version of the FT-86 be a Scion or Toyota in North America?
Toyota	95	87.16%
Scion	14	12.84%
Voters: 109. You may not vote on this poll

02-15-2011, 03:31 PM	#43
Midship Runabout formerly Dixie Normous Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: The ladies wild! Location: ())_)CRAYOLA)_))> Posts: 996 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ guys at dealerships don't know shit about future vehicles __________________

02-15-2011, 11:17 PM	#45
Chokonen888 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: Seibu Shinjuku Line Location: Tokyo Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wonder is it will be rebadged/spec'd/styled for both Scion and Toyota. For example, a base model Scion version and the 2.5L Toyota version. It's already kinda being done with both a Toyota/Suby version, can't hurt to add a FR car to the Scion brand since they are investing in "Scion Racing" so much with FF tC's. Anyhow, the more they use the platform the better and this solution would make everyone happy. (I'm just glad we don't have the Scion brand in Japan haha) Last edited by Chokonen888; 02-15-2011 at 11:37 PM.

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02-16-2011, 02:09 AM	#46
ryun84 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Drives: 04 PSM WRX Wagon Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Man. How great would it be if Toyota just came out after Geneva and said, "Surprise! All that talk about North America getting this car as a Scion was a big joke!" Then we could just browse through all these pages and just laugh. Would be the most epic April Fools joke, too.

02-16-2011, 02:46 AM	#47
Aki Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Drives: '96 beater Corolla Location: Cali Posts: 409 Thanks: 7 Thanked 32 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Since there's no "who cares" option I voted Scion. I don't care if it's called the Twinkletoes FT-86, I'll still buy it. I mean what's the big deal? If you don't like the Scion badge, get dental floss, take off the emblem, stick Toyota emblem on, done. As for not liking Scion because it's a "girl's brand" or rice-rocket niche or whatever, I say man up. Are you buying the car to please other people or yourself? I don't care if people think it's as girly as a Miata so long as it's 2600-ish lbs, 200hp and w/ a six-speed tranny. I'm wanting the car for the driving experience, not because I'll look cool in it. If you care about image, buy a used M3 or something.

02-16-2011, 11:30 PM	#50
Matador hashiryu Join Date: Nov 2009 Drives: Mk4 Supra Location: Probably mucking around in an engine bay Posts: 2,567 Thanks: 18 Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011...-s-in-usa.aspx lol. Read the comments. Gold.

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