2020 Toyota GR Supra Revealed!

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by abraxis

You missed my point. It's not about space.

5% of the rest of the whiners expect the Supra to be a direct competitor with the GTR so they can not spend the $100k they don't have on a car they never could afford anyway.

I'd prefer a new Supra over my modded FR-S. It would be a direct replacement for me. My enhanced twin is probably just as much fun on a time attack track.
I was rationalizing the cost won't be necessary as I have that performance now except maybe not 4.1 0-60 due to transmission etc. I dont feel any deficiency.

[wrxgoose]

I'm with you, wbradley. I do love my 86, but the Supra will fit my needs better. The auto is better for my knee, and as much as the 86 is my daily, I think I'll prefer driving the Supra. Especially on the long drives that we make multiple times a year, it'll be more comfortable.


And it'll be easier to get her up to about 550-600whp

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by wrxgoose

And it'll be easier to get her up to about 550-600whp

Aside from doing what the Japanese gentleman in the video was doing to his tires, what does it really do having so much excess HP?

[HKz]

Originally Posted by wrxgoose

I'm with you, wbradley. I do love my 86, but the Supra will fit my needs better. The auto is better for my knee, and as much as the 86 is my daily, I think I'll prefer driving the Supra. Especially on the long drives that we make multiple times a year, it'll be more comfortable.


And it'll be easier to get her up to about 550-600whp

I doubt the Supra will be a better daily despite having more torque and most likely better NVH levels. Shorter wheelbase, bigger wheels, 600 more lbs, high door sills, less practicality than the twins despite the hatch...will be interesting

Originally Posted by wbradley

Aside from doing what the Japanese gentleman in the video was doing to his tires, what does it really do having so much excess HP?

that is part of being a "man," excess and gluttony everyone wants to be on top of the world

[wrxgoose]

Originally Posted by HKz

I doubt the Supra will be a better daily despite having more torque and most likely better NVH levels. Shorter wheelbase, bigger wheels, 600 more lbs, high door sills, less practicality than the twins despite the hatch...will be interesting



that is part of being a "man," excess and gluttony everyone wants to be on top of the world

I'm hoping for a better ride, better seats, and better mileage. Though with the way my 86 is now, that shouldn't be difficult to do.


More power won't really do much, just more fun for me. Hell, my shop wants to try making custom bits for it. I'm willing to let them try things on my car, so long as ut doesn't ruin it.

[HKz]

Originally Posted by wrxgoose

I'm hoping for a better ride, better seats, and better mileage. Though with the way my 86 is now, that shouldn't be difficult to do.


More power won't really do much, just more fun for me. Hell, my shop wants to try making custom bits for it. I'm willing to let them try things on my car, so long as ut doesn't ruin it.

well we'll see how the adaptive suspension works to counteract the wheel size, weight and wheelbase what is your MPG?

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Aside from doing what the Japanese gentleman in the video was doing to his tires, what does it really do having so much excess HP?

It's a professional drift car. Some of the tracks will have entry speeds close to triple digits and require wheel speeds in excess of 150mph. That needs to be done while maintaining a lot of grip and a high amount of angle. Considering the cars are running typically 265-295 width 200TW tires with like 10-15psi, the need for high power has become pretty prevalent in today's pro drifting world.

Maintaining near 90 degrees of angle with 150mph wheel speed isn't going to be possible with 400hp, so they get pretty crazy lol.

[gymratter]

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/wha...-figures.1645/

A90
EPA MILEAGE 21/30 mpg (city/hwy)

vs 86

AT: 24 city / 32 highway
MT: 21 city / 28 highway

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/39813.shtml
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/40526.shtml

[Atmo]

Originally Posted by gymratter

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/wha...-figures.1645/

A90
EPA MILEAGE 21/30 mpg (city/hwy)

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Respectable, and no gas guzzler tax.

I don't recall the exact numbers for my A80 TT, but think it was between 13-16 when on it which was often, less when driving in Montana that had no maximum speed limit then.

Real world A90 numbers will be interesting, but these are encouraging.

Next up, insurance numbers.

[wrxgoose]

Originally Posted by HKz

well we'll see how the adaptive suspension works to counteract the wheel size, weight and wheelbase what is your MPG?

Considering I have the injectors from the blower still in the car, maybe 20, on a good day. Lol.

[gymratter]

working vents

[HKz]

Originally Posted by gymratter

working vents

uh aside from the ones coming down from the headlights, I don't see anything different... The door vent ain't functional unless someone shows me inside of the door jam & sill, rear vent underneath the tailight looks blocked up as before, and the one in the hood is impossible to tell.

[gymratter]

compared to the normal car.

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by HKz

uh aside from the ones coming down from the headlights, I don't see anything different... The door vent ain't functional unless someone shows me inside of the door jam & sill, rear vent underneath the tailight looks blocked up as before, and the one in the hood is impossible to tell.

Agreed. Just because the plastic blanks were replaced with mesh does not necessarily mean they are "working vents". There needs to be some additional sheetmetal work and/or ducting behind that mesh to make them do any sort of work beyond looking better cosmetically.