Frs vs s2000

[ayau]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

It's not an issue that we've run into since we're currently on coilovers that are fully height adjustable (for camber in the rear) and have a camber plate + crash bolt in the front...

what would you recommend for the rear on stock height?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by ayau

what would you recommend for the rear on stock height?

We got about -1.1 out of the rear by playing with tolerances...

[iLuveKetchup]

How's the engine holding up? Reliable?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup

How's the engine holding up? Reliable?

well... we're on a 2nd engine on the BRZ...

My s2k is at 114k and counting.

[ayau]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

well... we're on a 2nd engine on the BRZ...

My s2k is at 114k and counting.

did you guys figure out what caused it?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by ayau

did you guys figure out what caused it?

Direct injector seal failure.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by ayau

kind of off topic, but i'm interested in @CSG Mike's opinion.

what "solution" would you recommend to achieve some negative camber on the BRZ? i'm pretty set on some SPC camber bolts at the front, but i'm unsure about the rear. possibly the stock lower control arm with an adjustable one? i figured these parts will get me about -1.5 degrees of camber.

i suppose you could also get some lowering springs for additional camber, but they'd have to be pretty similar to the stock springs, otherwise you're going to need to upgrade to some aftermarket dampers.

On the front the lowering springs won't change the camber much. I gained .1 negative camber with 1.4" lowering springs.

Up front camber using OEM control arms = crash bolts and camber plates.

Rear will have more than enough with a reasonable lowering, and the solutions there are obvious. Personally I want to see some adjustable UCAs instead of the LCA solutions.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Direct injector seal failure.

What happened to the engine? Lean and popped?

[ayau]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

On the front the lowering springs won't change the camber much. I gained .1 negative camber with 1.4" lowering springs.

Up front camber using OEM control arms = crash bolts and camber plates.

Rear will have more than enough with a reasonable lowering, and the solutions there are obvious. Personally I want to see some adjustable UCAs instead of the LCA solutions.

how much camber did you gain in the rear from your lowering springs?

what's the advantage of an ajdustable upper control arm vs lower control arm?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

What happened to the engine? Lean and popped?

It was actually misfiring (losing charge through the failed seal under load, into the intake manifold...), but we caught it really early, so there was no permanent damage.

However, FHI wanted the engine for teardown, and replaced ours...

Only happens when the engine is FULLY heated up (not just the temp gauge in the "normal" spot), and only under 3500 RPM or so.

[goldenfri]

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup

^ well said. I am also thinking of selling the s2k CR and have the BRZ to do it all - daily, auto-x, and track.

My 01 S2000 was recently totaled by a deer. So I am considering doing this as well. I can't decide if I want to get another S2000 or go BRZ. I have a Subaru RS for the winter, so that isn't an issue.

My S2000 was supercharged though, so a SC/turbo would definitely be in the BRZ's future, assuming one is extensively tested on the track.

Lots to think about, just need to make up my mind.

[iLuveKetchup]

Originally Posted by goldenfri

My 01 S2000 was recently totaled by a deer. So I am considering doing this as well. I can't decide if I want to get another S2000 or go BRZ. I have a Subaru RS for the winter, so that isn't an issue.

My S2000 was supercharged though, so a SC/turbo would definitely be in the BRZ's future, assuming one is extensively tested on the track.

Lots to think about, just need to make up my mind.

If I didn't have my s2k and was buying a car now, I'd get the BRZ. It doesn't make sense for me to move to a BRZ, but this would be a good opportunity in your situation.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by ayau

how much camber did you gain in the rear from your lowering springs?

what's the advantage of an ajdustable upper control arm vs lower control arm?

-2.3 on one side and -2.7 on the other.

LCAs will change the track by pulling the wheel inward (slightly, but still), UCAs can just push the top of the wheel back out.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

-2.3 on one side and -2.7 on the other.

LCAs will change the track by pulling the wheel inward (slightly, but still), UCAs can just push the top of the wheel back out.

Hmmm our car was uneven from the factory as well... by 0.4 too. Did you end up evening it out by tolerances or arms?