Gmookher wants racing wheels 17x8.5 or 17x9 lowest weight options? VENDORS LOOK HERE

[Ro_Ja]

Originally Posted by ModBargains.com

Rotary forged construction puts them in the category of BBS, Advan and a few others that use the same process as well, so they're a serious contender for a lot less than those big name brands.

Not true. Please don't spread misinformation.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by from another forum

For instance, you can have a cast wheel. Then you can have a spun cast wheel (ZCP/CSL, BBS CH, Forgestar, Sportline CSetc). Then you can have a forged machined wheel (1 piece Morr, multi piece HRE, iForged, DPE) where they take a forged billet of aluminum and machine the shape out of it. This is a cheaper process than what Rays Enginering (Volk), BBS, and Taneisha (Champion, Dinan, OZ) does. Then you can have a die forged wheel (Volks, BBS, Champion) that starts with a hot forging process where the face is pressed in the billet of aluminum alloy then is rm forged is when the piece is then spun and heated which then goes to a spinning process to determine the wheel width. IIRC, a spun cast wheel follows the same process that a die forged wheel goes through but it does not start as a forged billet, so its strength and weight is somewhere between a forged and cast wheel.

The problem is you have idiot wheel companies and thus vendors marketing a spun cast wheel as "spun forged" or "rotary forged" so there may be some confusion.

Everyone likes to throw the word "forged" around nowadays.

[JoeBoxer]

Pm Mark @RavSpec on the Weds TC105n and tell him i sent you

I would take a long look at the Team Dynamics and the Mach V's though too.

[hamlet]

i have 17x9 weds tc105n +35 in the rear of mine. They poke a little but I think that would be rectified with a little camber change. Super strong. And 16.5lbs on my scale, which is pretty light.

Weds does NOT list these on their website, but RAVSPEC can get them for you if you don't mind terrible customer service and long wait times

[gmookher]

whats the REAL strength difference forged vs cast

....as I erronously nail the rumble strips too hard and too fast.. tell me

worth spending for?

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by hamlet

Weds does NOT list these on their website, but RAVSPEC can get them for you if you don't mind terrible customer service and long wait times

Ouch - I must have missed that (or you didn't post about it). My experience with RavSpec was the complete opposite. They took care of me and had my wheels+tires+TPMS all set up for me to pick up in a decent amount of time (the holidays got in the way of making it faster, but that was to be expected).

[MSTiFK8R]

Originally Posted by gmookher

whats the REAL strength difference forged vs cast

....as I erronously nail the rumble strips too hard and too fast.. tell me

worth spending for?

forged ones allow more flexibility for the rim. it can actually pressurize (squeeze) a bit, taking the hit, and expand back to the normal form after the hit

cast cant do this and crack much much more easily

I recall watch the video where big press imitated the major curb hit to a wheel

forged one behaved like a ballon, returning to original form
cast ones cracked each time


and this one just to make you envy IF you'd stick with 8J's )
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=24
13,4 lbs FTW

[gmookher]

Originally Posted by MSTiFK8R

and this one just to make you envy IF you'd stick with 8J's )
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=24
13,4 lbs FTW

what are those?

btw thanks for calling all the way from Russia it was fun chatting with you!

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by gmookher

whats the REAL strength difference forged vs cast

....as I erronously nail the rumble strips too hard and too fast.. tell me

worth spending for?

That depends completely on the rim.

Forged rims are heavier per volume, but can be made "thinner". You can't really go wrong with ANY high quality wheel, as long as you pick a wheel appropriate to your application.

I have a habit of dropping 2 wheels and hitting berms at full speed, and haven't bent the barrels of our cast wheels yet.

[No Limit Motorsport]

I have gold Advan TC2 17x8.5 +45, gold color in stock. Weight is 16.5lbs each. I will do $1460 shipped

[gmookher]

what comes close to a Volk or Rays without that pricepoint in forged?

great discussion, lots to take in

thanks folks

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

Enkei rpf1(very popular track wheel)

Will not clear the brake setup he's switching to. (in the sizes he wants)

[OrbitalEllipses]

Which is the priority here: weight, price, or strength? You will NOT find all three at the same time.

Team Dynamics is a motorsport wheel; it is NOT lightweight. TD changed the design for strength after users complained they didn't stand up to street use too well. A good wheel, but not the lightest after the redesign.

TC105N. I have a set in 17x8. Very light; about as light as OEM STI 17x7.5 BBS wheels. They were expensive and only several hundred less than entry level set of forged wheels and/or more expensive than a used set. At this price per wheel, you could go $100/wheel more and get 3-piece wheels from SSR.

Volks. Expensive. Light. Not worth the entry price to the club IMO; at least not new. These are absolute BLING that are also functional.

I think you're looking for something like the new 17x9 Enkei RPF1. Lightweight, but strong enough for track duty where you don't necessarily care about getting them nicked and scratched. Unfortunately that size won't clear the Essex/AP brake kit. So here's where I also suggest the Mach V "Awesome" wheel. Not forged, not heavy, made specifically for the purpose of being an affordable and replaceable wheel for Subaru enthusiast/track applications.

[whataboutbob]

I chose 17x9 35 offset RPF1s FTW!