PTUNING Turbo Kit Owners Topic

[bjun]

Originally Posted by rb6freak

Any pics of a design? The Cusco bar fits today with about 1/4" or 1/2" inch clearance. I got a rough quote for custom firewall braces support from a metal fabricator ~ $ 250 stainless steel unpainted.

I've been lagging on finalizing the angle of the bracket that mounts to firewall. A couple other owners are waiting on me to finish, sorry guys! I skipped geometry because I hated it. Algebra all done long but angles make my head hurt =P

This weekend I'll finish and drop off the plans for the first set to be made and fitted.

No there are no pics yet. I will work with Top Speed Pro 1 if peoplr are interested. Also I don't think cusco makes carbon fiber strut bar so that's why I mentioned this in case anyonr were interested in a CF strut bar such as myself. And CF for $200-250 is a really good price

[kanundrum]

Doesn't TRD Made a Tubular Bar made out of CF too? Also from what I was talking with @Mrc@ptuning theirs was going to be a bit different and offer more rigidity.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by bjun

No there are no pics yet. I will work with Top Speed Pro 1 if peoplr are interested. Also I don't think cusco makes carbon fiber strut bar so that's why I mentioned this in case anyonr were interested in a CF strut bar such as myself. And CF for $200-250 is a really good price

Cusco makes a CF strut bar with integrated MCB yes. Still options are always good.

[bjun]

Originally Posted by kanundrum

Doesn't TRD Made a Tubular Bar made out of CF too? Also from what I was talking with @Mrc@ptuning theirs was going to be a bit different and offer more rigidity.

Oh I was not aware Ptuning was making their own custom strut bar for us. Is there any more info on this?

[sw20kosh]

So... a month or so ago my catalytic converter in the stock manifold disintegrated while tuning the ptuning turbo kit on my car (did a pull with the cam's not online yet = ran very rich). Luckily no damage to the engine/turbo.

I needed to get a header sooner rather than later in order to continue with tuning this system. I put in an order for the JDL UEL as they were having a sale and were shipping them out real quick.

While waiting for the header to arrive I gutted the stock manifold - removing the remains of the catalytic converter. Tuning resumed on this frankenstein header and we were actually making decent progress. VE had increased and the torque was holding to redline. We went through 8 or so revisions in order to dial this manifold in.

Three weeks after ordering, the JDL UEL came and I installed it instantly. The results speak for themselves. I am pretty blown away by how much it has improved the VE of my setup. The gains are great especially considering @jamesm hasn't had a chance to tweak the tune for this new header. We knew the stock manifold wasn't ideal but we didn't know it was this bad. Conversely the JDL UEL may just be freaking unicorn magic. @Jesse@JDLAutodesign @ptuning

Virtual Dyno on same flat road, same day. 3rd gear pulls. ACN91 octane.
Yellow is gutted stock manifold. This is consistent with previous pulls showing anywhere from 265-280 whp.
Red and Blue are two runs of the JDL UEL untuned.



Note: You can see where the VE probably increased (where the AFR leans out in the upper rpms). Spool improved too.

Here is boost and knock correction. 3rd gear pulls and same road same day.
Top chart is JDL UEL.
Bottom chart is stock gutted manifold.



Even with it leaning out a bit (wideband log showed a max of 12.8 AFR in the 6-7k zone) and the tune not even being tweaked, there is no knock correction.


Hope this sheds some light on just how bad the stock manifold is (at least for turbo applications that retain it).

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

So... a month or so ago my catalytic converter in the stock manifold disintegrated while tuning the ptuning turbo kit on my car (did a pull with the cam's not online yet = ran very rich). Luckily no damage to the engine/turbo.

I needed to get a header sooner rather than later in order to continue with tuning this system. I put in an order for the JDL UEL as they were having a sale and were shipping them out real quick.

While waiting for the header to arrive I gutted the stock manifold - removing the remains of the catalytic converter. Tuning resumed on this frankenstein header and we were actually making decent progress. VE had increased and the torque was holding to redline. We went through 8 or so revisions in order to dial this manifold in.

Three weeks after ordering, the JDL UEL came and I installed it instantly. The results speak for themselves. I am pretty blown away by how much it has improved the VE of my setup. The gains are great especially considering @jamesm hasn't had a chance to tweak the tune for this new header. We knew the stock manifold wasn't ideal but we didn't know it was this bad. Conversely the JDL UEL may just be freaking unicorn magic. @Jesse@JDLAutodesign

Virtual Dyno on same flat road, same day. 3rd gear pulls. ACN91 octane.
Yellow is gutted stock manifold. This is consistent with previous pulls showing anywhere from 265-280 whp.
Red and Blue are two runs of the JDL UEL untuned.



Note: You can see where the VE probably increased (where the AFR leans out in the upper rpms). Spool improved too.

Here is boost and knock correction. 3rd gear pulls and same road same day.
Top chart is JDL UEL.
Bottom chart is stock gutted manifold.



Even with it leaning out a bit (wideband log showed a max of 12.8 AFR in the 6-7k zone) and the tune not even being tweaked, there is no knock correction.


Hope this sheds some light on just how bad the stock manifold is (at least for turbo applications that retain it).

Impressive and just goes to show shit happens and thankfully you didn't have a wreck! Not to be an ASS but PT needs to get their header out for sale to accompany this kit ASAP IMO. One shouldn't have to buy someone else's header. fwiw I love so much about this kit however bit cart before the horse happening with it's design using stock header b4 turbo IMO is all and someday someone isn't going to be lucky and grenade a turbo just a matter of time. I personally have to configure in a header upfront cost, as my luck that would be me and it's all too much money to risk.

[kanundrum]

Originally Posted by OICU812

Impressive and just goes to show shit happens and thankfully you didn't have a wreck! Not to be an ASS but PT needs to get their header out for sale to accompany this kit ASAP IMO. One shouldn't have to buy someone else's header. fwiw I love so much about this kit however bit cart before the horse happening with it's design using stock header b4 turbo IMO is all and someday someone isn't going to be lucky and grenade a turbo just a matter of time. I personally have to configure in a header upfront cost, as my luck that would be me and it's all too much money to risk.

Their header I hope will be out soon, Here is a sneak peak at how it looks. Amazing quality!!

[Darryljr11]

I hope they release it soon. Would be nice to make over 300WHP.

[Mrc@ptuning]

Originally Posted by bjun

Oh I was not aware Ptuning was making their own custom strut bar for us. Is there any more info on this?

We designed a CF Strut bar and billet aluminum diagonal bar last year but never put it into production due to other product development that took precedence. Let me see if I can get some CAD drawings of the bar and we'll post it up.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by Darryljr11

I hope they release it soon. Would be nice to make over 300WHP.

What fuel do you have access to there? I only have CA91 which is worse than the 91 in most states of the US. If you have 92 or 93 you'll easily be above 300.

[mkivsoopra]

Originally Posted by Mrc@ptuning

We designed a CF Strut bar and billet aluminum diagonal bar last year but never put it into production due to other product development that took precedence. Let me see if I can get some CAD drawings of the bar and we'll post it up.

@rb6freak

[Darryljr11]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

What fuel do you have access to there? I only have CA91 which is worse than the 91 in most states of the US. If you have 92 or 93 you'll easily be above 300.

93 octane. Car hit 292whp on their dyno in the 80's. The stock header is just crap and it was so hot and humid. Cant afford more dyno time on a cooler (if that happens anytime soon) day without more go fast mods so patiently aaiting for header to be available.

[jc1993]

Originally Posted by rb6freak

I don't plan on heading out that way in my car, but if you're in my town feel free to hit me up :-)

I just got a new fancy camera and can't wait to get some better footage. Heading out to the track again Tuesday; @midnight23 @Moetivegt86 if you want to join in too lets go.

I see u live in CA. When the time comes how do u handle smog test

[rb6freak]

Originally Posted by jc1993

I see u live in CA. When the time comes how do u handle smog test

I do not plan to smog the car in 6 years.