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There are two sides of the story and then the truth as they say.
I don't really care if GReddy backed out of a deal or Zage was outright counterfeiting the kit, but poorly grinding the logo of a competitor off the pipes and including other parts with their name on it is piss poor business practice. If I was SBD I wouldn't accept that on a product I was selling. |
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let the market correct the issues... just saying
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That doesn't work. The market votes with their wallet, so they'll always go for the cheapest option. This encourages companies that actually do the R&D to just not participate anymore. What's the point of devoting six months to a year or more and tying up multiple people's time with designing, fabricating, testing, more designing, more fabricating, more testing, etc... if you won't be able to recoup those expenses?
All it takes is one shitty company to buy one kit legitimately, copy it, and start selling copies of your kit for a thousand or two less, and there goes any profit you might have made. There are several countries in Asia that excel at making cheap knockoffs of nearly everything, and there's no way to force them to stop. The market will gravitate towards those kits unless there's something horrendously wrong with them, just because they're cheaper. |
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Sure we would. They all produce better products than their knockoffs. If you get an Appel Ipud from a street vendor in Afghanistan (it was a long deployment, don't ask), it might look like an iPad, but it won't work like one and it'll only last a month. For audio, just because it looks like a B&W or a Wilson or a Boenicke doesn't mean shit; the technology just isn't in the counterfeit and it will sound like crap. Even LV, Hermes, Christian Louboutin, etc... A Preda shoe might look just like its Prada counterpart, but it won't fit as well, won't be as comfortable, and won't last nearly as long as the original. Some people know that quality costs more, and they're ok with that. Others just want to look classy without the price tag, and they get an inferior product.
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I already would have never bought an SBD turbo kit, so the only thing I took out of this thread is that either @Foobar or @woode needs to change their avatar. Too confusing.
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Its a complete rip off of the Greddy kit. Big reason why many companies dont innovate or release new parts as often is because of stupid companies like them who copy a companies R&D for a turbo kit. Supporting companies like this is what hurts our scene and makes companies like Greddy/HKS not want to do business in the states. Why do you think HKS-USA shut down and they moved all their operations back to Japan? All their shit they put out gets copied by companies like SBD and @vividracing Vivid racing use to sell a greddy intake or part for another platform. Then when Vivid racing copied that part they removed the Greddy part and replaced it with theirs and always recommending it over other parts to customers and those customers ended up fucking up their car bad due to bad craftsmanship/QC. It was leaking or something I forget but it wasnt a good part. Honestly why would you go cheap on a turbo kit? Spend the extra money and get Greddys turbo kit or get another kit from another vendor who did their own R&D at the same price range like AVO. You get what you pay for and I wouldnt be surprised if this kit cut corners to reduce costs. Youll thank your self later when you see owners of this kit reporting blown engines due to probably using made in china/taiwan parts/turbos. Not that they are bad but you can bet Greddy if they did source their parts from there that they will make sure they have quality work done by them since they need to protect their brand. |
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Not all parts from taiwan/china are bad. Its just that not all companies make sure that what they receive from there is good quality work being done. Cracks, welds, fitment etc. |
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Love all the speculation on all ends
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