LS 1 swap in my mustache man BRZ

[hmong337]

Just buy a clean c6 Vette. Trust me on this one

[08stiguy]

Originally Posted by hmong337

Just buy a clean c6 Vette. Trust me on this one

Will do! Thanks ✌️

[AtlasMick]

Do the swap. This guy ended up getting better weight front to rear ratio and less overall weight on the car with a LS and tran. swap.

http://www.vorshlag.com/forums/showthread.php?p=57906

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by AtlasMick

Do the swap. This guy ended up getting better weight front to rear ratio and less overall weight on the car with a LS and tran. swap.

http://www.vorshlag.com/forums/showthread.php?p=57906

What about center of gravity? You can put 100 lbs on a 20 foot pole welded to the roof and have it perfectly centered front to rear and left to right, but it would still handle like shit.

[AtlasMick]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

What about center of gravity? You can put 100 lbs on a 20 foot pole welded to the roof and have it perfectly centered front to rear and left to right, but it would still handle like shit.

Won't know until someone tries it. However, I believe people are getting over excited about it. The whole engine assembly might weigh a quarter of the car's whole weight. If the engine CoG is higher by 2 inches the whole cars might raise minimally. Combined with an inch drop on the car and you've solved your problem.

When you counter this with adding weight in front and up high in the engine bay a turbo, and then the rest of the supporting mods (intercooler, oil cooler, oil catch can, etc) of a turbo system to acheive the same HP or torque you are still are doing the same damage (read "if any") that a LS swap would.

So OP, please do it. and then maybe we can all chip in for you to take it CoG tested with the rest of the car completely stock?

[Readytoxplod]

Corvettes are heavier too, COG will change but that doesn't mean it will handle like shit. Example: miatas with ls swaps, there are a ton of track oriented ls miatas that do way quicker laps than a standard one. There are a ton of factors at play, it won't be as balanced but it won't turn the car in to a piece of shit necessarily. Damn this forum is full of hating ass people.

[Vides990]

not sure how this hasnt been posted.....

http://shop.weaponsgradeperformance....rz-ls-swap-kit

[ashtray]

Originally Posted by Vides990

not sure how this hasnt been posted.....

http://shop.weaponsgradeperformance....rz-ls-swap-kit

"complete kit" = $8k. (add $5k for them to do install). I don't think the OP is looking to spend $8k just for the kit to put a 200k mile engine in his car.

What's the going rate for a slightly used FA20 and trans? I get the feeling that's his budget.

[Vides990]

Originally Posted by ashtray

"complete kit" = $8k. (add $5k for them to do install). I don't think the OP is looking to spend $8k just for the kit to put a 200k mile engine in his car.

What's the going rate for a slightly used FA20 and trans? I get the feeling that's his budget.

ummm, its still a complete list of the correct parts to make sure his swap works reliably, whether or not he buys the stuff from there.......budget build swaps are bad ideas anyways but thats a completely different topic.

[OmarGC]

Originally Posted by Vides990

budget build swaps are bad ideas anyways but thats a completely different topic.

[ashtray]

Originally Posted by Vides990

ummm, its still a complete list of the correct parts to make sure his swap works reliably, whether or not he buys the stuff from there.......budget build swaps are bad ideas anyways but thats a completely different topic.

I'd say better brakes, upgraded rear diff, possibly suspension changes along with wider tires should all be considered part of the list. This is like saying to build a house you need 2x4's, nails, and plywood. Oh, but the complete kit would contain roofing materials, carpet, and paint.

I'd have to imagine the actual complete list of parts alone on this engine swap would be over 100 items.

Don't get me wrong, these builds are completely doable and the end result (when starting with a good engine) would be show quality, with very impressive performance numbers. Problem is, as posted earlier, to do this right is about a $70k investment for something so unique that no shop would be able to troubleshoot a problem down the road sometime. It's a great idea for people in the car industry to build to show either the quality of the parts they make, competency of their shop, or as a specialty competition drift vehicle, etc. It's not the sort of build one does when their DD gets into an accident, and they have two spare vehicles to drive (BRZ and TA) that they then take out of commission for a few months in order to do an engine swap on a budget - equal to roughly the value of a used FA20. And not that people won't want an FA20, but with a plethora of EJ blocks out there in both 2.0 and 2.5l sized, with turbos, for cheap - who is looking to spend much more on an FA20 engine? (Not helping that it will likely come without the much needed ECU)


As a reference, I once had a V6 model vehicle and wished mine had the V8 option that was available. I spoke to a shop and they flat out said it would be easier and cheaper to just sell my car and find one with the factory V8 than to attempt a swap. The cost of the engine itself was minimal compared to the other costs to get it all to work and the amount of labor involved. I was 17 at the time and the used V8 engines were about $2k. Very naive I was.

[Vides990]

Originally Posted by OmarGC

I don't mean you have to go to a high end shop to have it done just that the right parts and equipment need to get used. It costs money to play and if you don't do it right the first time it just costs more down the road....cheap, fast, reliable, you only get two and if you want fast and reliable it costs $$$$$ something OP doesn't seem to have........there's nothing budget about your builds...lol

[Vides990]

Originally Posted by ashtray

I'd have to imagine the actual complete list of parts alone on this engine swap would be over 100 items.

I just meant the major assembly pieces.....though from reading your post I think you're saying the same thing and we agree.....

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

What about center of gravity? You can put 100 lbs on a 20 foot pole welded to the roof and have it perfectly centered front to rear and left to right, but it would still handle like shit.

Originally Posted by Readytoxplod

There are a ton of factors at play, it won't be as balanced but it won't turn the car in to a piece of shit necessarily. Damn this forum is full of hating ass people.

Learn to read. I asked a question regarding the effect of the swap on the center of gravity. I didn't say it would make it handle like shit, only that a car could have "better" weight distribution than the twins and still handle like shit, because weight distribution is not the only factor at play. None of that means I'm "hating ass people."

Fuck me for asking a legitimate question.