Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[shif7i7down]

ESC is paid for!, cant wait for it to arrive.. hope this 1.5dump setup is as awwwwwsome as you folks have described it.. ^_^

a few questions for you guys that already have the esc. how long did it take to clear customs?
and, I have a fully stock car with just a drop in K&N filter, whats are the gains that i should be expecting.. <- is there a dyno graph of a stock car +esc in one of the dyno graphs on the first page?

[silent runner]

Originally Posted by shif7i7down

ESC Paid!, cant wait for it to arrive.. hope this 1.5dump setup is as awwwwwsome as you folks have described it.. ^_^

It is...

I think I have to drop by on Rob and at least say hello tomorrow. Maybe I'll give him a little demo of my Camry with the 250, 1.0 set-up, for fun if he wants to check it. I've been running a prototype for about 5 months now on a really old, high milage car now with no detrimental effects. I just have to share the results with him, it killing me to keep this to myself, and this is on a crappy old automatic motivated Camry. It's just silly quick now in acceleration, and all the sway bars, brake and tire/wheel upgrades work hand in hand with making it a fine driving, family hauling sleeper.

[enwave]

I just put in an offer on a brand new home this morning and Rob springs the ESC on me on the same day!? Bless his heart.

I can't wait to get this! Great stuff.


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[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by enwave

I just put in an offer on a brand new home this morning and Rob springs the ESC on me on the same day!? Bless his heart.

I can't wait to get this! Great stuff.


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Congrats!

[Target70]

Originally Posted by TM

I think this is the dyno you're referring to:


Run 002: Stock tune
Run 046: ESC tune & armed with DR
Run 047: ESC tune & unarmed

^ is my labeling correct?

So the dyno was of DR all the way to redline without activating the throttle switch?

I am not sure how old or how that was set up, but I don't believe it always gives power above normal, here is a more recent post:

Originally Posted by Jac

As promised, here's my detailed dyno report. All on 93 octane, 4th gear pulls + catted front pipe and catback exhaust.

First things first, ESC vs. stock + stock map (both with front pipe/CBE/intake filter)


LOVE the 50% torque gain in the dip


Hate the drop off towards 7K rpm, really rewards you for keeping it between 3-5K


The Phantom ESC was hitting about 4.5psi peak boost, then dropping to 0.5-1psi higher in the rpm range.

Next up i tested SPM (Super Pursuit Mode turns off throttle switch) vs. stock to see if I'd actually gain/lose anything with drag reduction only. I did.

ESC Super Pursuit Mode (red) vs. stock + stock map (both with front pipe/CBE/intake filter)
Was surprised to see peak numbers were pretty much the exact same with SPM actually producing less low end torque until 4K.



Next i wanted to see how the ESC would perform with an aftermarket intake filter

ESC vs. ESC w/K&N Filter (both with front pipe/CBE)
Nice gains! almost 10hp and 10tq higher in the rpm range.


Although my AFRs started to get a bit scary with the filter. Although this was with the dynojet exhaust sniffer, not OFT data logging.



Summary, I'm very happy with the torque between 3-5K its what the car really needed. Would love to keep it going past 6K but here's hoping the 1.5 dump pack helps. Horsepower isn't all that impressive but who cares when you have all that torque on tap that low in the range. AFRs are still a bit scary but I'm thinking with more fuel i should be making more power.

Let me know if you have any questions. I'm planning to hit the dyno again once i get my 1.5 dump pack and will likely ask Shiv for an e-tune to clean-up my AFRs.

[MagicBobert]

For those who are already running the kit, are any of you still on stock wheels and tires? If so, do you have any trouble putting the power down?

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by MagicBobert

For those who are already running the kit, are any of you still on stock wheels and tires? If so, do you have any trouble putting the power down?

No problems on stock rubber. Even though the torque increase is huge over stock, in the grand scheme of things its still around 190WTQ (hoping e85+OFH will get me to 210ish). That's great for a 2700lbs car, but not enough to make car control an issue. Also, the power comes on gradually, so the tires don't get worked that hard on acceleration. However, I'm generally driving faster now, so I'm working the brakes and tires harder decelerating too. In any case, stock rubber is fine for this kit.

[Gums]

Modded my door lights whilst I wait for shiv@vishnu to get the G rom ESC tune sorted. This is my first try, so some room for improvement.

[Jac]

Originally Posted by TM

For example, if a track has 3 straights (two short ones and a long one), but the controller will overheat after one or two laps, I might want to only activate the ESC through the long straight to prevent it from overheating so I can go through all ~10 laps still using the drag reduction feature and ESC-on-command before the session ends.

Ah ok, sounds like you'd want SPM then. Keeps the WOT switch on the pedal but lets you deactivate it.

[TM]

Originally Posted by Jac

Next up i tested SPM (Super Pursuit Mode turns off throttle switch) vs. stock to see if I'd actually gain/lose anything with drag reduction only. I did.

ESC Super Pursuit Mode (red) vs. stock + stock map (both with front pipe/CBE/intake filter)
Was surprised to see peak numbers were pretty much the exact same with SPM actually producing less low end torque until 4K.

Would be interested to see where stock + stage 1 map would fit into this graph. I'm assuming it'll be slightly higher than these two runs.

[shif7i7down]

Just incase anyone haven't bought their batteries yet, i found some Pertty cheap ones at m and b batteries.Order Summary
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[TM]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

I went ahead and purchased the cooling mod materials. I ended up purchasing the following:

Amazon.com: HPS (SSTC-76-84) 76mm - 84mm Stainless Steel T-Bolt Clamp for 2-3/4" Hose: Automotive

Amazon.com: Allstar ALL42141 Black 5" x 9-3/4" Single Hole Offset Plastic Brake Cooling Duct: Automotive

and last: Amazon.com: Allstar ALL42150 Black 3" x 10' Brake Duct Hose: Automotive

I actually don't need the full length of ducting so @nlowell and I are splitting the tubing.

Did you end up using the Single Hole Offset Plastic Brake Cooling Duct? I don't see it in your after pictures.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by TM

Did you end up using the Single Hole Offset Plastic Brake Cooling Duct? I don't see it in your after pictures.

Not yet. So there are gains still to be had in that department. I will be installing it within the week.

[WNDSRFR]

What about the 1.5 kits?
It's about the middle of May and I haven't heard anything about them.