follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > 1st Gens: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ > Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum

Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum The place to start for the Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 | GT86


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-18-2016, 01:25 PM   #43
gramicci101
Off Topic
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited
Location: Vegas, baby!
Posts: 4,610
Thanks: 2,369
Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,170 Posts
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by RickyRacer View Post
I bought a K&N drop in and didn't feel a performance increase.. has anyone actually felt a difference or are there any dyno graphs?

Im sure it helps with breathing though
Here you go, with dyno testing. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56341
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tcoat View Post
You have any idea what it would cost me to go to Vegas????? Would have to tell the wife and it would suddenly be a $5,000 trip. The same applies for Cleveland, Detroit, Atlantic City or any other location that has a casino there/nearby/on the route.
You could sell it as a road trip and hit up some of the parks like Yellowstone on the way.
gramicci101 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to gramicci101 For This Useful Post:
RickyRacer (05-18-2016)
Old 05-18-2016, 01:35 PM   #44
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by solidONE View Post
I'm sure it's worth a WHP or 2, along with a muffler delete(track pipe) or catless frontpipe. all of which are under $500 USD or CAN, perhaps even under that all together if you shop wisely or have a welder and some piping. Though, aside from the noise if you choose to do exhaust mods, I seriously doubt you'll be able to perceive the difference of single digit power increase.
You may be able to get the drop in and pipe for some place around $350 here but that is what I meant about budgeting for mods not modding to a budget. At that point people would be just grasping at straws to find mods they can afford and would be totally disregarding the value of what they are doing.


Now if somebody just wants to nickel and dime their way up so that they can have an impressive list of mods for their Facebook or Instagram account or if they have a long term plan and know what they want but can only afford bits at a time then that is a great way to go about it.


I do not believe that there is a long term plan in place for the OP here and he is just trying to buy random stuff that he can afford. That is NOT the way to mod a car.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2016, 01:37 PM   #45
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by gramicci101 View Post
Here you go, with dyno testing. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56341
You could sell it as a road trip and hit up some of the parks like Yellowstone on the way.
Do they have casinos? She couldn't give a flying f*** about parks.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2016, 01:45 PM   #46
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by strat61caster View Post
Diagree, camber bolts and alignment or tires can be done for $500 for noticeable improvements to performance.
I am pretty sure his reference to "performance" was in relation to HP. He was looking for alternatives to a $5K turbo.
Camber bolts are among the items that he should be checking out although at this point it would appear that the focus needs to be getting what he can out of the car as it is.


Please provide a source for quality tires under $500 in Canada. I will be very happy to start using them.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Tcoat For This Useful Post:
strat61caster (05-18-2016), Ultramaroon (05-18-2016)
Old 05-18-2016, 01:50 PM   #47
EAGLE5
Dismember
 
EAGLE5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Drives: 2013 Red Scion FR-S
Location: Castro Valley
Posts: 5,557
Thanks: 2,152
Thanked 3,999 Times in 2,155 Posts
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tcoat View Post
Do they have casinos? She couldn't give a flying f*** about parks.
Reading comprehension, yo!


I don't think there's a right or wrong way to do mods. There are just mods. As for performance, an alignment and crash bolts plus some tires, as Strat said, is the best way to start. Or at least an alignment and crash bolts. Stock tires are great.
EAGLE5 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to EAGLE5 For This Useful Post:
strat61caster (05-18-2016), Ultramaroon (05-18-2016)
Old 05-18-2016, 01:53 PM   #48
mav1178
Senior Member
 
mav1178's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry
Location: 91745
Posts: 6,562
Thanks: 493
Thanked 6,093 Times in 3,029 Posts
Mentioned: 95 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by strat61caster View Post
Diagree, camber bolts and alignment or tires can be done for $500 for noticeable improvements to performance.
Perhaps, but it's the old chicken and egg problem:

Are you modifying to fix a problem, or modifying for sake of modifying? OP hasn't made that clear yet.

Alignment, while great, changes the driving characteristics of the car. Increased camber tends to make the car tramline more, which is a royal PITA for a daily driver and/or bad roads.

-alex
mav1178 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to mav1178 For This Useful Post:
Ultramaroon (05-18-2016), Uplink (05-31-2016)
Old 05-18-2016, 01:53 PM   #49
solidONE
Senior Member
 
solidONE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: FR-S Whiteout
Location: California
Posts: 2,863
Thanks: 1,808
Thanked 790 Times in 611 Posts
Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tcoat View Post
You may be able to get the drop in and pipe for some place around $350 here but that is what I meant about budgeting for mods not modding to a budget. At that point people would be just grasping at straws to find mods they can afford and would be totally disregarding the value of what they are doing.


Now if somebody just wants to nickel and dime their way up so that they can have an impressive list of mods for their Facebook or Instagram account or if they have a long term plan and know what they want but can only afford bits at a time then that is a great way to go about it.


I do not believe that there is a long term plan in place for the OP here and he is just trying to buy random stuff that he can afford. That is NOT the way to mod a car.
While that may be true from your perspective or mine, but who's to say what is "right" and what is the "wrong" way to mod cars? Try going to one of those hella cambered, hard park car meets and tell them they're fucking their cars up. lol

I personally feel the $500 some odd dollars I spent on my OFT was the best money I spent on my car. Each time I change my set up (which I have dozens of times) I can try to optimize the tune, and I have been tinkering with my calibrations endlessly. Some might feel that I must get the most expensive "JDM" stuff on the market to be worthwhile. On the same token, I'd say they've spent 2~3 times the money that I've spent on similar mod just to be not much better or worse off in terms of performance yielded from the mods. So who's "wrong" and who's "right?" I wont say that they're "wrong." I just think they have a different approach. Maybe OP just wants to spend some money on his or her "baby." I think we can all relate to that. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
__________________
Intent > Content

cowardice is the mother of cruelty.
solidONE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2016, 01:54 PM   #50
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by gramicci101 View Post
- RCE Yellows - slightly lower, better handling than OEM.
- SPC front camber bolts - more camber = better handling!
- Whiteline diff outrigger bushings - keeps the diff from flopping around during abrupt throttle changes or when shifting.
- Transmission mount insert - keeps the transmission from flopping around. No idea if it fits AT.
- Alignment - more camber = better handling. With the springs and camber bolts, you should be able to get around -1.7 in the front and -1.5 to -2 in the back.

All of this should come out to about $500.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardJ View Post
Honestly I have no idea what you suggested, but few words like 'better handling' I recognize. Will do my research. Thanks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsimon7777 View Post
Reading comprehension, yo!


I don't think there's a right or wrong way to do mods. There are just mods. As for performance, an alignment and crash bolts plus some tires, as Strat said, is the best way to start. Or at least an alignment and crash bolts. Stock tires are great.

I rest my case!
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2016, 02:01 PM   #51
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by solidONE View Post
While that may be true from your perspective or mine, but who's to say what is "right" and what is the "wrong" way to mod cars? Try going to one of those hella cambered, hard park car meets and tell them they're fucking their cars up. lol

I personally feel the $500 some odd dollars I spent on my OFT was the best money I spent. Each time I change my set up (which I have dozens of times) I can try to optimize the tune, and I have been tinkering with my calibrations endlessly. Some might feel that I must get the most expensive "JDM" stuff on the market to be worthwhile. On the same token, I'd say they've spent 2~3 times the money that I've spent on similar mod just to be not much better or worse off in terms of performance yielded from the mods. So who's "wrong" and who's "right?" I wont say that they're "wrong." I just think they have a different approach. Maybe OP just wants to spend some money on his or her "baby." I think we can all relate to that. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Ya my wording was off there. I really didn't mean it to say that it is my way or nothing. My point was there is modding for what YOU want and then there is modding for the sake of modding. I agree mod for whatever you like and in any fashion you desire but at least know what you are modding for. If your goal is to get the most FB likes with a hard parker then that is cool with me and should be with anybody else since at least you have a goal. My concern with this particular thread isn't so much that he is modding on a budget (I even said that) but that he is just trying to find random stuff to fit that budget. If he just wants to spend money on his baby again that is cool but he seems to want results from that small amount of money that he is just not going to get and I do not want him to get all disillusioned.


Actually in rereading what I wrote and your response I think you may have totally misread or understood what I was saying. Not saying save up for the biggest and best just to know why and what you are buying.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Tcoat For This Useful Post:
GT86_PRAGUE (05-19-2016), strat61caster (05-18-2016)
Old 05-18-2016, 02:08 PM   #52
solidONE
Senior Member
 
solidONE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: FR-S Whiteout
Location: California
Posts: 2,863
Thanks: 1,808
Thanked 790 Times in 611 Posts
Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I suppose we can ask him what his goals are with his mods? Who knows maybe he just want some bling? if that's the case a set of LED taillights or headlights will give him some bling factor for the money. LOL
__________________
Intent > Content

cowardice is the mother of cruelty.
solidONE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2016, 02:12 PM   #53
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by solidONE View Post
I suppose we can ask him what his goals are with his mods? Who knows maybe he just want some bling? if that's the case a set of LED taillights or headlights will give him some bling factor for the money. LOL
LOL don't think those will cut it (and again way over the price point mentioned in Canada). Did you read all the thread? His goals are for more performance on a $500 budget. He clearly stated he is not looking for cosmetics at this point.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2016, 02:17 PM   #54
solidONE
Senior Member
 
solidONE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: FR-S Whiteout
Location: California
Posts: 2,863
Thanks: 1,808
Thanked 790 Times in 611 Posts
Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tcoat View Post
LOL don't think those will cut it (and again way over the price point mentioned in Canada). Did you read all the thread? His goals are for more performance on a $500 budget. He clearly stated he is not looking for cosmetics at this point.
Just sayin. lol
__________________
Intent > Content

cowardice is the mother of cruelty.
solidONE is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to solidONE For This Useful Post:
Tcoat (05-18-2016)
Old 05-18-2016, 02:21 PM   #55
humfrz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 29,866
Thanks: 28,787
Thanked 31,813 Times in 16,424 Posts
Mentioned: 708 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by RickyRacer View Post
I bought a K&N drop in and didn't feel a performance increase.. has anyone actually felt a difference or are there any dyno graphs?

Im sure it helps with breathing though
Of course I did ........ after all, I paid $50 for it .......


humfrz
humfrz is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to humfrz For This Useful Post:
GT86_PRAGUE (05-19-2016), Tcoat (05-18-2016), Ultramaroon (05-18-2016), Uplink (05-31-2016)
Old 05-18-2016, 02:21 PM   #56
strat61caster
-
 
strat61caster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: '13 FRS - STX
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 10,364
Thanks: 13,732
Thanked 9,476 Times in 4,997 Posts
Mentioned: 94 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tcoat View Post
Please provide a source for quality tires under $500 in Canada. I will be very happy to start using them.
lol

Maybe Hankook Ventus V12 Evo V2 would be an affordable summer tire, ~$90/ea US on Tirerack. Don't have a line on a good website to check actual prices to you but I tried Tirerack which charged $260 to ship it to a shop in Toronto so
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guff View Post
ineedyourdiddly
strat61caster is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.