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Old 02-23-2018, 10:31 AM   #43
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Nah plates don't look out of place on the front of cars. They have been there for about 90 years so why all of a sudden do they look wrong? This whole "the plate in the center looks bad and off to the side is cool" thing is a relatively new fad.

At least the angled rear plate fad didn't last long.

Edit: LOL and I just noticed the 1 1/4" exhaust on that road warrior! Must sound awesome.
I grew up in a state that didn't require a front plate, so it's always looked weird to me. I also lived in another state for 9 years that didn't even provide front plates. Having any plate on the front just looks out of place for me.

I don't think the offset plate looks cool, I just have no desire to drill holes or zip-tie anything to the grill.

I've never seen that angled rear plate fad, for which I'm rather grateful.
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When I was at a car wash, I saw a guy with a blue Kouki 86 that mounted his plate down on the grille. Wish I wrote down how he secured it. Said something about brackets from Home Depot. It looked awesome and I wanna do the same.

Where are you, scarborough car wash dude?
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I grew up in a state that didn't require a front plate, so it's always looked weird to me. I also lived in another state for 9 years that didn't even provide front plates. Having any plate on the front just looks out of place for me.

I don't think the offset plate looks cool, I just have no desire to drill holes or zip-tie anything to the grill.

I've never seen that angled rear plate fad, for which I'm rather grateful.
Well in that case yes it would look weird. To me a missing plate (legit or not) just looks strange and not right since they have always been there everyplace I have lived. All in perspective I guess.
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No one cared about mounting it offset until 1) the Lancer Evolution VII came out in the US, and 2) manufacturers started mounting tow hooks off-center with a cover on the bumper.
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No one cared about mounting it offset until 1) the Lancer Evolution VII came out in the US, and 2) manufacturers started mounting tow hooks off-center with a cover on the bumper.
100% this ^^^^^^^^^
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I use the Perrin offset just to mess with peoples OCD.
Such immense satisfaction overrides any other consideration.

My '95 Dodge Grand Caravan came stock with an offset front plate.
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Because a 5% reduction in surface area does not impact engine cooling on a street driven car in any way.
More like 30% in the pics shown before (mounted lower, right at the center of the "real" grill portion).

And I bet that as I'm typing this, there is at least a handful of people on other threads freaking out about seeing 250F+ oil temps and dropping huge money on oil coolers.
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More like 30% in the pics shown before (mounted lower, right at the center of the "real" grill portion).

And I bet that as I'm typing this, there is at least a handful of people on other threads freaking out about seeing 250F+ oil temps and dropping huge money on oil coolers.
Nah. Even in the center it won't effect street driving. The fan may kick in a bit more often but you won't see elevated temperatures. There is still more than enough area to move air through.


Still way more surface area than many, many cars with much larger engines and cooling requirements.





Like I said cars with other coolers added and being pushed hard would be a totally different matter.
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Here's my solution from Japan

however, the bolts don't line up on the mount and CA plate so I 3m taped it until I find a bracket

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No one cared about mounting it offset until 1) the Lancer Evolution VII came out in the US, and 2) manufacturers started mounting tow hooks off-center with a cover on the bumper.
True, ....... although, as I recall, the off center placement wasn't unusual .....


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I had the Grimmspeed bracket and bought the Raceseng on sale last year.

Grimmspeed = no complaints. Nice product, nice price.
Raceseng = baller status. Really nice option if you do track days. Switch between your front plate and a tow hook in about a minute with a 4mm allen and 25mm wrench.
I like the Grimmspeed because it has the most mounting options in terms of exactly where you want it compared to other tow hook mounts. And I like the offset look


But it is more of a pain to swap at the track if you don't want to scratch your bumper cuz you have to pull the place and mount off before pulling the rod. Mine is already jacked so I leave the plate and just remove the whole thing at once lol. The Raceseng one would be a great option for a car pulling double duty street/track if you can cough up the $$$
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I like the Grimmspeed because it has the most mounting options in terms of exactly where you want it compared to other tow hook mounts. And I like the offset look


But it is more of a pain to swap at the track if you don't want to scratch your bumper cuz you have to pull the place and mount off before pulling the rod. Mine is already jacked so I leave the plate and just remove the whole thing at once lol. The Raceseng one would be a great option for a car pulling double duty street/track if you can cough up the $$$
Well I saw how much you NorCal guys like them!
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Well I saw how much you NorCal guys like them!

Lol, you should our engine bays.


They make good stuff. Hood struts are awesome, tool tray/pulley cover is useful, bling stuff looks nice. Just wish their damn intake would fit with an oil cooler like it was supposed to cuz I'm using it for an awkward paperweight atm
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Lol, you should our engine bays.


They make good stuff. Hood struts are awesome, tool tray/pulley cover is useful, bling stuff looks nice. Just wish their damn intake would fit with an oil cooler like it was supposed to cuz I'm using it for an awkward paperweight atm
Tried to get a pic of Sapphireho's but the glare was too much.
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