Does anyone take the 86 off the road during Winter? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

gutbuster · 03-30-2018, 08:55 PM

Roads in upstate NY get copious amounts of salt in the Winter. I have always had a beater for the Winter, like my 01 Odyssey with 185k miles. I like to have at least one car that is "clean" to work on.

At least I have something to look forward to in the Spring.

ToySub1946 · 03-30-2018, 09:02 PM

I'm from Brighton area of Rochester, NY.

Lived there twice...guess I had to relearn.

Note where I live now...

Fuck that salt !

Owning a vehicle used away from salt, that vehicle can be used for one's entire lifetime.

My opinion is that in the 21st century it's totally insane to be continuing to use salt on roads.

Impureclient · 03-30-2018, 09:06 PM

What's this "winter" you speak of?

humfrz · 03-30-2018, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impureclient

What's this "winter" you speak of?

humfrz

cjd · 03-30-2018, 09:41 PM

I do, but only because I only drive to/from races, and road trip. I drive sometimes on Thanksgiving, but it's not worth the work (brake swap, etc.) for the amount of driving I just won't do. Also, save a ton on insurance that way.

I always have winter tires on the car in case of an emergency. Except this winter, when I had no car, then the replacement came with fancy brakes that my winter wheels didn't clear. Oops.

Everything I've read/heard says it's quite a nice drive if you've got the right tires and such. Lots of 'em get run ice racing.

j3rf · 03-30-2018, 09:55 PM

Yep, I put the BRZ away every year. Somewhere around November up through March depending on weather.

gutbuster · 03-30-2018, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impureclient

What's this "winter" you speak of?

A real Winter. The kind that makes a few attempts to kill you.

When I was a kid people learned to drive in snow. We used to grab onto bumpers and hitch a ride. Nowadays people want to get to work without having to slow down. The towns buy mountains of salt and spread it around generously.

It’s not just the cars that get ruined. The roads and bridges take a big hit.

Spuds · 03-31-2018, 10:48 AM

So I have a winter beater for when I know there's going to be salt/etc on the roads. But, I still drive my FRS every week or two in the winter between storms. Granted, I get less snow than NY, and PA doesn't really treat the roads unless absolutely necessary. And even then, not all the time.

I got the underpanels to mitigate rust risk. The front of the car is relatively well protected, and the factory undercoating is pretty tough but I feel the underpanels add another layer of protection for most of the car. Exhaust is going to rust no matter what, and maybe the driveshaft etc. That leaves the rear subframe. I've had a Subaru subframe literally fall apart under me. It gave me plenty of warning, I was just dumb and it was my beater at the time. Just some inspection, paint repair where necessary, and replace parts BEFORE they fail. Whole subframe can be replaced btw.

CB750F · 03-31-2018, 11:59 AM

Yup, put it on a battery tender, fill tires to 45 & top up gas tank, no gas additive, Nov 30th to April 1st.

Jegan_V · 03-31-2018, 02:41 PM

No.

This is my only car and thus my DD. Therefore I don't need to look forward to driving it, its a all year round thing.

Its even an easy car to drive in winter. If anything the communicative chassis and steering is more relevant in these conditions than in good conditions.

humfrz · 03-31-2018, 02:54 PM

No. I bought the car to drive it. I figure it will last longer than me, so, I'm not saving it for any reason.

humfrz

cantholdanymore · 03-31-2018, 07:27 PM

Just swapped the blizzaks last Friday :-)

gutbuster · 03-31-2018, 08:31 PM

Any car that is driven in salt and I work on (my Ody, wife's Prius and son's Xb) get sprayed with fluid film NAS every year. I does get a little messy but it really does have a big effect on corrosion. I buy the 5 gallons from Kellsport (via Amazon) and use the Pro undercoat gun with compressor. The "C" channels get a tube stuck in them with the stuff coming out radially.

https://www.amazon.com/Fluid-Underco...fluid+film+nas

I used to use LPS3 but this stuff is better. It really wicks in and stays "wetted".

Ziebart is crap. Like flushing $ down the toilet.

RToyo86 · 03-31-2018, 08:37 PM

I plan to drive mine through the next winter.

A good rust coating goes a long way, I've been doing some research to find somebody around town who will take the time and apply it correctly. I just want to find a place that will ensure they silicone and properly protect the rubber under the car prior to the coating.

Crown has a good reputation, at least select locations around town.

03-30-2018, 08:55 PM	#1
gutbuster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 13 FR-S Location: NY Posts: 113 Thanks: 22 Thanked 44 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Does anyone take the 86 off the road during Winter? Roads in upstate NY get copious amounts of salt in the Winter. I have always had a beater for the Winter, like my 01 Odyssey with 185k miles. I like to have at least one car that is "clean" to work on. At least I have something to look forward to in the Spring. __________________ Former rides: 78 Scirocco, 80 Corolla, 79 Celica, 91 CRX, 90 CRX-Si,02 GTI, 87 944s, 86 911 3.2 Carrera, 03 MR2 Spyder

03-30-2018, 09:02 PM	#2
ToySub1946 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 15FRS, 05MustangGT, 85Toyota truck Location: Eureka, Ca. Posts: 574 Thanks: 672 Thanked 590 Times in 279 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I'm from Brighton area of Rochester, NY. Lived there twice...guess I had to relearn. Note where I live now... Fuck that salt ! Owning a vehicle used away from salt, that vehicle can be used for one's entire lifetime. My opinion is that in the 21st century it's totally insane to be continuing to use salt on roads. Last edited by ToySub1946; 03-30-2018 at 09:14 PM.

03-30-2018, 09:55 PM	#6
j3rf Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Cincinnati Posts: 105 Thanks: 97 Thanked 46 Times in 32 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yep, I put the BRZ away every year. Somewhere around November up through March depending on weather. __________________ 13 BRZ Limited 6MT Lightning Red

03-31-2018, 08:31 PM	#13
gutbuster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 13 FR-S Location: NY Posts: 113 Thanks: 22 Thanked 44 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Any car that is driven in salt and I work on (my Ody, wife's Prius and son's Xb) get sprayed with fluid film NAS every year. I does get a little messy but it really does have a big effect on corrosion. I buy the 5 gallons from Kellsport (via Amazon) and use the Pro undercoat gun with compressor. The "C" channels get a tube stuck in them with the stuff coming out radially. https://www.amazon.com/Fluid-Underco...fluid+film+nas I used to use LPS3 but this stuff is better. It really wicks in and stays "wetted". Ziebart is crap. Like flushing $ down the toilet. __________________ Former rides: 78 Scirocco, 80 Corolla, 79 Celica, 91 CRX, 90 CRX-Si,02 GTI, 87 944s, 86 911 3.2 Carrera, 03 MR2 Spyder

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Impureclient Banned Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 2015 FR-S Location: NPR, Florida Posts: 2,404 Thanks: 1,802 Thanked 2,903 Times in 1,282 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	What's this "winter" you speak of?

03-31-2018, 10:48 AM	#8
Spuds The Dictater Join Date: Apr 2017 Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS Location: MD, USA Posts: 9,432 Thanks: 26,115 Thanked 12,433 Times in 6,148 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So I have a winter beater for when I know there's going to be salt/etc on the roads. But, I still drive my FRS every week or two in the winter between storms. Granted, I get less snow than NY, and PA doesn't really treat the roads unless absolutely necessary. And even then, not all the time. I got the underpanels to mitigate rust risk. The front of the car is relatively well protected, and the factory undercoating is pretty tough but I feel the underpanels add another layer of protection for most of the car. Exhaust is going to rust no matter what, and maybe the driveshaft etc. That leaves the rear subframe. I've had a Subaru subframe literally fall apart under me. It gave me plenty of warning, I was just dumb and it was my beater at the time. Just some inspection, paint repair where necessary, and replace parts BEFORE they fail. Whole subframe can be replaced btw.

03-31-2018, 11:59 AM	#9
CB750F Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2015 BRZ WRB Location: Great White North Posts: 121 Thanks: 12 Thanked 73 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yup, put it on a battery tender, fill tires to 45 & top up gas tank, no gas additive, Nov 30th to April 1st.

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Jegan_V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2023 Subaru BRZ Location: Toronto Posts: 433 Thanks: 67 Thanked 275 Times in 156 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No. This is my only car and thus my DD. Therefore I don't need to look forward to driving it, its a all year round thing. Its even an easy car to drive in winter. If anything the communicative chassis and steering is more relevant in these conditions than in good conditions.

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humfrz Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 29,868 Thanks: 28,790 Thanked 31,815 Times in 16,425 Posts Mentioned: 708 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	No. I bought the car to drive it. I figure it will last longer than me, so, I'm not saving it for any reason. humfrz

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cantholdanymore Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: FR-S Very Hot Lava Location: VA Posts: 95 Thanks: 71 Thanked 22 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just swapped the blizzaks last Friday :-)

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RToyo86 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: 17 Asphalt 86 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,167 Thanks: 1,708 Thanked 2,207 Times in 1,128 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I plan to drive mine through the next winter. A good rust coating goes a long way, I've been doing some research to find somebody around town who will take the time and apply it correctly. I just want to find a place that will ensure they silicone and properly protect the rubber under the car prior to the coating. Crown has a good reputation, at least select locations around town.

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