BRZ D4S bulb ? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

MRZ415 · 03-25-2012, 02:25 AM

Checking the BRZ manual I was able to determine that
the HID use D4S bulb ... is that good ?
I know of D1S D2S D3S D4S ?
does the higher number D4S mean its the BEST of the lot ???

I am a noob and never own a car with HID before ...
and I did google HID headlights and check around a bit...
I know
D=Discharge...
4= # ofDesignatior.. and
S=standard so it use plain glass shield or something ...

gdi2290 · 03-25-2012, 03:04 AM

I wouldn't say the best just a different type, but then again I never had HIDs lol

Dark · 03-25-2012, 03:04 AM

What do you mean by good? It is a bit cheaper than HID in 3 series.

zAnSh1n · 03-25-2012, 03:31 AM

just a different design, same draw/output...

there are many more different types of halogen bulbs, but you wouldn't say one socket type is superior than the other, especially just by the number designation [ie- 9005 < 9006], would you?

Dave-ROR · 03-25-2012, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zAnSh1n

just a different design, same draw/output...

there are many more different types of halogen bulbs, but you wouldn't say one socket type is superior than the other, especially just by the number designation [ie- 9005 < 9006], would you?

Actually less draw and less output. D4s is eco xenon. Output is ~100 lumens less than d2s. D4s runs at 42v instead of the 85v for d2s. D4s is also mercury free.

Jeff Lange · 03-25-2012, 10:10 AM

D1S = Mercury 85V Bulb w/Built-in Igniter, Plain Glass for Projector
D1R = Mercury 85V Bulb w/Built-in Igniter, Shielded Glass for Reflector
D2S = Mercury 85V Bulb w/o Built-in Igniter, Plain Glass for Projector
D2R = Mercury 85V Bulb w/o Built-in Igniter, Shielded Glass for Reflector
D3S = Mercury-Free 42V Bulb w/Built-in Igniter, Plain Glass for Projector
D3R = Mercury-Free 42V Bulb w/Built-in Igniter, Shielded Glass for Reflector
D4S = Mercury-Free 42V Bulb w/o Built-in Igniter, Plain Glass for Projector
D4R = Mercury-Free 42V Bulb w/o Built-in Igniter, Shielded Glass for Reflector

Up until about 2011 (starting in around 2004), D4 bulbs were only used by Toyota/Lexus, Honda started using the D4S in the CR-Z. They're not bad bulbs, and I think they will become more common, but right now they are currently almost exclusively used by Toyota.

Jeff

Lighting Red · 03-25-2012, 10:26 AM

Jeff,

Fantastic attribute round up on common HID bulbs! I am going to copy it for future reference.

Brzer · 03-25-2012, 10:45 AM

Actually from my research the only downside with the D4S bulb that I can see is a shorter bulb life. The beamspread actually looks better and the lumen output is the same as the D2S, at least according to the info on this post.
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...-yours!!/page4

Sportsguy83 · 03-25-2012, 10:52 AM

Three questions

1) Does anyone know what color temperature are the OEM bulbs ?

2) For those on the know, what is your favorite color temperature for HID headlights?

3) Preferred brand

MRZ415 · 03-25-2012, 11:05 AM

4300k ? most light on the road ? 5000K is WHITE light... slightly less output...
6000K is diamond white.. blue white slightly less output.

Jeff Lange · 03-25-2012, 11:16 AM

OEM is 4300K, it has the most light output, and is my preferred colour. 5000K isn't terrible either, but anything above that I do not care for, but that's a personal thing as far as colour is concerned. 4300K has the most light though.

There are some decent brands out there, but D4S is a bit harder to find bulbs for. Philips are very good and used to be OEM for Toyota/Lexus, they have since switched to a Japanese supplier Toshiba-Harison, which are very good as well. I am running the OE Toshiba-Harison bulbs in my IS.

Jeff

Sportsguy83 · 03-25-2012, 11:23 AM

I think I would prefer a more blueish color (say 6k) but I'm not willing to sacrifice light output for color so I guess OEM 4300K it is. Thanks for your input!

zAnSh1n · 03-25-2012, 03:12 PM

i had no idea, probably should have searched a bit before posting; things have changed since 2008 [last time i drove] :P

i'm personally going with Phillips 8k...

Dark · 03-25-2012, 03:25 PM

8000K is not bright. 6000K is okay, but it's hard to see in the rain. The peak is mostly between 4300K-4500K, that's why 4300K being the brightest.

03-25-2012, 02:25 AM	#1
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03-25-2012, 03:04 AM	#3
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03-25-2012, 10:10 AM	#6
Jeff Lange Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 1986 AE86 GT-S, 2011 Lexus IS250 6M Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 661 Thanks: 136 Thanked 361 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	D1S = Mercury 85V Bulb w/Built-in Igniter, Plain Glass for Projector D1R = Mercury 85V Bulb w/Built-in Igniter, Shielded Glass for Reflector D2S = Mercury 85V Bulb w/o Built-in Igniter, Plain Glass for Projector D2R = Mercury 85V Bulb w/o Built-in Igniter, Shielded Glass for Reflector D3S = Mercury-Free 42V Bulb w/Built-in Igniter, Plain Glass for Projector D3R = Mercury-Free 42V Bulb w/Built-in Igniter, Shielded Glass for Reflector D4S = Mercury-Free 42V Bulb w/o Built-in Igniter, Plain Glass for Projector D4R = Mercury-Free 42V Bulb w/o Built-in Igniter, Shielded Glass for Reflector Up until about 2011 (starting in around 2004), D4 bulbs were only used by Toyota/Lexus, Honda started using the D4S in the CR-Z. They're not bad bulbs, and I think they will become more common, but right now they are currently almost exclusively used by Toyota. Jeff __________________ 2011 Lexus IS350 F-Sport 6MT with LSD 1986 Toyota Corolla GT-S Supercharged

03-25-2012, 11:05 AM	#10
MRZ415 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2015 Subaru WRX Location: San Francisco Posts: 339 Thanks: 41 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	4300k ? most light on the road ? 5000K is WHITE light... slightly less output... 6000K is diamond white.. blue white slightly less output. __________________

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Lighting Red Habitual Line Crosser. Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: ^ Two of my favorite things. Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 327 Thanks: 115 Thanked 166 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Jeff, Fantastic attribute round up on common HID bulbs! I am going to copy it for future reference.

03-25-2012, 10:45 AM	#8
Brzer Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: BRZ, 2011 Outback 3.6R Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 41 Thanks: 5 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Actually from my research the only downside with the D4S bulb that I can see is a shorter bulb life. The beamspread actually looks better and the lumen output is the same as the D2S, at least according to the info on this post. http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...-yours!!/page4

03-25-2012, 11:16 AM	#11
Jeff Lange Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 1986 AE86 GT-S, 2011 Lexus IS250 6M Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 661 Thanks: 136 Thanked 361 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OEM is 4300K, it has the most light output, and is my preferred colour. 5000K isn't terrible either, but anything above that I do not care for, but that's a personal thing as far as colour is concerned. 4300K has the most light though. There are some decent brands out there, but D4S is a bit harder to find bulbs for. Philips are very good and used to be OEM for Toyota/Lexus, they have since switched to a Japanese supplier Toshiba-Harison, which are very good as well. I am running the OE Toshiba-Harison bulbs in my IS. Jeff __________________ 2011 Lexus IS350 F-Sport 6MT with LSD 1986 Toyota Corolla GT-S Supercharged

03-25-2012, 03:12 PM	#13
zAnSh1n ♥カレー大好き !! Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: ♿ Location: 𝐋𝐎𝐒 𝐀𝐍𝐆𝐄𝐋𝐄𝐒 Posts: 762 Thanks: 43 Thanked 144 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i had no idea, probably should have searched a bit before posting; things have changed since 2008 [last time i drove] :P i'm personally going with Phillips 8k... __________________

03-25-2012, 03:25 PM	#14
Dark Elite Padawan Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet Location: Shoreline, WA Posts: 3,498 Thanks: 197 Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	8000K is not bright. 6000K is okay, but it's hard to see in the rain. The peak is mostly between 4300K-4500K, that's why 4300K being the brightest. __________________ Dark

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