Comparison with 944 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

taosracer · 03-19-2012, 10:49 PM

While I realize a lot on these forums aren't old enough to remember the Porsche 944

it seems like there are many similarities. Size, wheelbase, power, weight, balance etc. Yes the 944 had torsion rear suspension, inline 4 and the gearbox in the back, but....

just sayin'

tranzformer · 03-19-2012, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taosracer

While I realize a lot on these forums aren't old enough to remember the Porsche 944

it seems like there are many similarities. Size, wheelbase, weight, balance etc. Yes the 944 had torsion rear suspension, inline 4 and the gearbox in the back, but....

just sayin'

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25

Btw, I wish Porsche would bring back the 944.

Alias · 03-19-2012, 10:51 PM

There is a special forum just for comparisons and VS

Hopefully a nice mod will move this over there for you.

As towards comparing this with a porsche... I hope it doesn't cost anywhere NEAR that price range.

Edit: I just saw one of those for sale the other day on craigslist... hmmm

taosracer · 03-19-2012, 10:51 PM

perhaps a mod will move this to the proper position in the forums,

just sayin...

BTW 944s were and still are cheap as chips

chulooz · 03-19-2012, 10:55 PM

Wow, I had just been thinking about this today. I agree that they have very similar messages to convey and they do it in like ways. Clean 944's are becoming more difficult to find and the compliance with high power demands leaves many 944's not cutting it for the consumer looking for a little more oomph. I think it would come down to which sentiment you would rather follow, the nuances of owning a classic porsche and the responsibilities that come with it; or giving up a bit of heritage to go with a new car that modernizes similar goals.

IntenseDVDA · 03-19-2012, 11:26 PM

My Dad had a 944 back in the day. I used to shift from the passenger seat. We used to have a ball in that thing...when it wasn't in the shop!

bestwheelbase · 03-19-2012, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taosracer

BTW 944s were and still are cheap as chips

Not this one.

It sold for $82,500 at Amelia Island last weekend.

switchlanez · 03-19-2012, 11:54 PM

Watching this episode left me scouring craigslist and AutoTrader for a good example for a few days.

[u2b]XXhcDbmnudM[/u2b]

Slight tangent to the topic: Just found this gem of an episode I have yet to watch! http://www.youtube.com/user/rodajcfan/videos

tranzformer · 03-20-2012, 12:45 AM

I had also been looking at a used 944 but repair costs would be a killer for me.

OrbitalEllipses · 03-20-2012, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

I had also been looking at a used 944 but repair costs would be a killer for me.

Porsche tax. That's what's keeping me from getting an older 911 or Boxster S.

tranzformer · 03-20-2012, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Porsche tax. That's what's keeping me from getting an older 911 or Boxster S.

Yup. Otherwise I would love to own one.

fatoni · 03-20-2012, 01:22 AM

as much bickering and garbage on this forum but i think its safe that we can all agree on the cost to be a p car owner

colganc · 03-20-2012, 03:04 AM

I owned one a couple of years ago. It was alot of fun. I paid about 3k for mine (1985.5) with Fuch wheels. Clutch was bad and needed replacement, along with the a suspension bit or two in the front. I had the timing belt replaced if I remember right too. Total cost to make it a reliable daily driver was 2k. 5k for a fun, reliable, daily driver with ok gas mileage, very worth it. The power is low, but easy to have fun with on streets.

After I removed the interior it was at least twice as fun. All of the extra noise was worth it. Since it has a transaxle that sits right behind you, when you take off all the sound deadening you can really hear it. The inline four sounds pretty nice too.

I'm always looking for a new one as I really miss my old one. The power is low, but easy to have fun with on streets.

TylerD951 · 03-20-2012, 10:12 AM

My first car was a 1988 Guards Red 944 n/a 1999-2001 and then I had a 1986 Alpine White 944 Turbo from 2001-2007 before getting my current car as a reliable DD when I graduated from college.

This seems like the closest equivalent to a modern 944 in a long time and is why I am so interested. I can do without the power of a turbo now and just want something engaging and fun to drive and by all accounts the BRZ/FR-S seems to be just that.

I will forever have the feeling of driving those 944s etched in my memory so if I drive a FT86 and start to get those warm fuzzies... well I am going to be in trouble.

03-19-2012, 10:49 PM	#1
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03-19-2012, 11:26 PM	#6
IntenseDVDA Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: WRB BRZ Location: Maryland Posts: 83 Thanks: 10 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My Dad had a 944 back in the day. I used to shift from the passenger seat. We used to have a ball in that thing...when it wasn't in the shop! __________________ BRZ FTW

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03-19-2012, 10:51 PM	#3
Alias Resident Genius Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: Subaru Legacy GT, 1990 Geo Prizm Location: NW FL Posts: 100 Thanks: 54 Thanked 36 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There is a special forum just for comparisons and VS Hopefully a nice mod will move this over there for you. As towards comparing this with a porsche... I hope it doesn't cost anywhere NEAR that price range. Edit: I just saw one of those for sale the other day on craigslist... hmmm

03-19-2012, 10:55 PM	#5
chulooz Registered you sir Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: 99 impreza coupe Location: DC / CT Posts: 1,666 Thanks: 259 Thanked 380 Times in 207 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Wow, I had just been thinking about this today. I agree that they have very similar messages to convey and they do it in like ways. Clean 944's are becoming more difficult to find and the compliance with high power demands leaves many 944's not cutting it for the consumer looking for a little more oomph. I think it would come down to which sentiment you would rather follow, the nuances of owning a classic porsche and the responsibilities that come with it; or giving up a bit of heritage to go with a new car that modernizes similar goals.

03-20-2012, 12:45 AM	#9
tranzformer Delights in pure handling Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: Zoom Zoom Location: KS Posts: 4,854 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I had also been looking at a used 944 but repair costs would be a killer for me.

03-20-2012, 01:22 AM	#12
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03-20-2012, 03:04 AM	#13
colganc Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Silver Location: Portland Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I owned one a couple of years ago. It was alot of fun. I paid about 3k for mine (1985.5) with Fuch wheels. Clutch was bad and needed replacement, along with the a suspension bit or two in the front. I had the timing belt replaced if I remember right too. Total cost to make it a reliable daily driver was 2k. 5k for a fun, reliable, daily driver with ok gas mileage, very worth it. The power is low, but easy to have fun with on streets. After I removed the interior it was at least twice as fun. All of the extra noise was worth it. Since it has a transaxle that sits right behind you, when you take off all the sound deadening you can really hear it. The inline four sounds pretty nice too. I'm always looking for a new one as I really miss my old one. The power is low, but easy to have fun with on streets.

03-20-2012, 10:12 AM	#14
TylerD951 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2003 Accord EX V6 sedan Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 23 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My first car was a 1988 Guards Red 944 n/a 1999-2001 and then I had a 1986 Alpine White 944 Turbo from 2001-2007 before getting my current car as a reliable DD when I graduated from college. This seems like the closest equivalent to a modern 944 in a long time and is why I am so interested. I can do without the power of a turbo now and just want something engaging and fun to drive and by all accounts the BRZ/FR-S seems to be just that. I will forever have the feeling of driving those 944s etched in my memory so if I drive a FT86 and start to get those warm fuzzies... well I am going to be in trouble.

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