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Old 12-25-2017, 08:14 AM   #1
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I/H/E/ Parts For My 2018 BRZ tS. Help!

I have a deposit down for a 2018 Subaru BRZ tS. The first thing I am going to do is I/H/E/Tune.



Intake: Grimmspeed CAI - $330.00
Reason: To get rid of the sound generator and clean up the engine bay.



Header: JDL UEL (Black Finish) - $849.00
Reason: I want the boxer rumble and a quality header with good welds that will hold up over time.



Over Pipe / Front Pipe: JDL OP/FP Combo (Dual Resonated) - $849.00
Reason: I want to use the same company as my header. There is no emission testing in the state that I live in so I do not need a catalytic converter. However, I do not want any raspy'ness so I am opting for dual resonators in the front pipe.



Exhaust: FT-86 SpeedFactory V1 (Resonated) - $880.00
Reason: I've watched many YouTube videos and customer testimonials and believe this will be a quality exhaust to use with the rest of my parts. I am getting it resonated so it will reduce any chance of raspy'ness.



Tuning: Openflash Tuning - $499.00
Reason: Easy tuning solution with good Off-The-Shelf Tunes.

Total will come out to around $3,400.

Do you think this is a good setup? Will I have any issues with fitment with a 2018 model year? Do you think 3 resonators are overkill for raspy'ness?

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Old 12-25-2017, 08:47 AM   #2
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Bro, actually wait for the car to come out first. Who knows, that shit might not fit the 18. And you’re not going to buy all of that once. Wait for car to come out first, do research which parts will fit then purchase.
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What was the point to buy tS on first place? I mean if i buy something tuned by subaru technica international i probably leave stock for a few years or so and start mod it whatever i dont like imo. If would mod it right off the bat, why not buy the early model?
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Get the catted over-frontpipe. It'll smell less, be a bit quieter, and not hurt performance.

If you were after max gains or noise, or hard racing, then maybe. But otherwise I'd keep a HFC.

Also will out in a plug for the JDL D² exhaust. I used it with ultra-quiet over-frontpipe (with a Nameless header) in 3" and really liked it. Considering a different route on the new car since the header didn't make it and is hard to find... But likely I'll keep it.

Not sure OFT has shipped their 17+ tunes publicly. That's the only possible wrench in the works.
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I guess you don't remember what the air quality was like in the 1970's before catalytic converters. Just because you don't have emissions testing doesn't mean that you shouldn't have one.
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Just go with the full HKS catalog!
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Bro, actually wait for the car to come out first. Who knows, that shit might not fit the 18. And you’re not going to buy all of that once. Wait for car to come out first, do research which parts will fit then purchase.
From the research that I did, it is the same as the 2017 model year. As long as all the parts fit the 2017 MY, it should fit the 2018 MY.

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What was the point to buy tS on first place? I mean if i buy something tuned by subaru technica international i probably leave stock for a few years or so and start mod it whatever i dont like imo. If would mod it right off the bat, why not buy the early model?
The point is to find a sporty replacement for my old 2008 Honda Civic Si Coupe.




The BRZ tS has a re-tuned suspension system, 18-inch wheels, Michelin Pilot Sport tires, and better brakes. STI did nothing to the engine and the FT86 has an infamous torque dip. I am attempting to mitigate that first and foremost with a proper full exhaust and tune.

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Get the catted over-frontpipe. It'll smell less, be a bit quieter, and not hurt performance.

If you were after max gains or noise, or hard racing, then maybe. But otherwise I'd keep a HFC.

Also will out in a plug for the JDL D² exhaust. I used it with ultra-quiet over-frontpipe (with a Nameless header) in 3" and really liked it. Considering a different route on the new car since the header didn't make it and is hard to find... But likely I'll keep it.

Not sure OFT has shipped their 17+ tunes publicly. That's the only possible wrench in the works.
Thanks for all your advice! I tried to find some YouTube videos of the JDL D² exhaust but I could not find any.

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I guess you don't remember what the air quality was like in the 1970's before catalytic converters. Just because you don't have emissions testing doesn't mean that you shouldn't have one.
90's kid master race checking in. j/k

I am so used to not having catalytic converters on my motorcycles when I get a full exhaust that I don't second guess ripping it out of my cars when I get them.


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Just go with the full HKS catalog!
Price is $2,805. It comes with an EL header. I prefer to get an UEL header. I also could not find a YouTube video with someone running their full exhaust.




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sell me the wheels first i know they are too narrow for you
I am keeping the wheels, brakes, and suspension stock.
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Have you even driven the BRZ? The torque dip is way overblown and really not as bad as people make it out to be.
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Have you even driven the BRZ? The torque dip is way overblown and really not as bad as people make it out to be.
I test drove one 4 years ago. It was a quick test drive but to be honest I don't really remember the driving dynamics. What I do remember is how driver-centric the car was and I loved it.

The torque dip is not the only reason. I also like to hear my cars and since this is my first proper Subaru, I want to hear that boxer rumble.
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I test drove one 4 years ago. It was a quick test drive but to be honest I don't really remember the driving dynamics. What I do remember is how driver-centric the car was and I loved it.

The torque dip is not the only reason. I also like to hear my cars and since this is my first proper Subaru, I want to hear that boxer rumble.
So the boxer rumble that's being phased out of every single modern Subaru? Makes sense.
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Have you even driven the BRZ? The torque dip is way overblown and really not as bad as people make it out to be.
The torque dip is not overblown. Once I heard about the dip and took the engine beyond 5000 rpm I could no unfeel the torque dip. With a full exhaust and tune torque dip is gone. Car no longer starts wheezing at 3000 rpm and torque delivery is much smoother

imo OP's mods are reasonable and well researched. The ts version from what I've gathered makes improvements to how the car handles and OP is trying to fix or optimize power delivery and the sound the car makes. The best thing you can say about the stock sound is that it is boring. The only thing I'd worry about is if the exhaust hangers for the catback don't fit the 2017+ model year cars.

Also I'd skip the cold air intake unless you want that good S U C C
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The torque dip is not overblown. Once I heard about the dip and took the engine beyond 5000 rpm I could no unfeel the torque dip. With a full exhaust and tune torque dip is gone. Car no longer starts wheezing at 3000 rpm and torque delivery is much smoother

imo OP's mods are reasonable and well researched. The ts version from what I've gathered makes improvements to how the car handles and OP is trying to fix or optimize power delivery and the sound the car makes. The best thing you can say about the stock sound is that it is boring. The only thing I'd worry about is if the exhaust hangers for the catback don't fit the 2017+ model year cars.

Also I'd skip the cold air intake unless you want that good S U C C
Why would you be driving in the torque dip for any kind of fun driving? Kind of defeats the purpose of a car that needs you to wring the engine for everything it's worth, and you can't do that if you're below 4k
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Why would you be driving in the torque dip for any kind of fun driving?
Why even have a torque dip when you can easily get rid of it?
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