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Old 10-16-2013, 02:52 PM   #155
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You don't see many of these around now, the fad will pass, some guys will stick with it, most will move on. The cults will continue like donks or lowriders or bombers or mini trucks or whatever but it will fade as most fads do.

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Interesting to read @TylerLieberman "handles well enough to have fun while looking good" along with @Draco-REX "making small adjustments to fine-tune the street feel" methodologies.

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@strat61caster did you just post THE FIST?!

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Old 10-16-2013, 04:47 PM   #158
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@strat61caster did you just post THE FIST?!

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been awhile since i've seen a pic of that car

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been awhile since i've seen a pic of that car

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You don't see many of these around now, the fad will pass, some guys will stick with it, most will move on. The cults will continue like donks or lowriders or bombers or mini trucks or whatever but it will fade as most fads do.

Lol while that car is not longer "cool" today, being an 8 year old kid getting dropped off and picked up from school in this thing was probably one of the most memorable moments from my childhood. That car was fun to ride in. Definitely more than just show. IIRC, it was making just under 570whp.
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You don't see many of these around now, the fad will pass, some guys will stick with it, most will move on. The cults will continue like donks or lowriders or bombers or mini trucks or whatever but it will fade as most fads do.

Are you saying the riceness or the supra itself as a fad will pass?
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Are you saying the riceness or the supra itself as a fad will pass?
i think hes referring to the style of the build. the loud and flamboyant modifications. it'll never fully die. there are still people out there that are into it and so long as there are cars and aftermarket parts, cars of similar fashion will always be around.

the fad now is to have a super low car with ridiculous camber and rocket bunny everything.

a lot people just build cars for internet fame these days. too worried about what everybody else will like and not so much as to what they like themselves.


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Are you saying the riceness or the supra itself as a fad will pass?
Rice has already passed and has been replaced by hellaflush.

When's the last time you saw a car look like that Supra in regular driving? Maybe once or twice a year in the past 5 years? Sure every once in awhile you see a wing on a Civic and big wheels but nothing like the rediculous stickers and decals that were prevalent in the early '00s. Meanwhile I see slammed VW's on my commute to work daily.

Supra will remain as a cool car for awhile but I foresee it falling out of favor soon as the rice tax comes down, it generally takes about 40 years for a car to start going up in value from it's low point about 30 years in, for the last generation of Supra I expect prices to fall over the next 10-15 years unless there's a big shift in pop culture or regulations that make the car desirable again.

See cars that are now classic like 60's Corvettes and Mustangs and Camaros and 911s, they were dirt cheap in the 80's left out to rot or sold for scrap, now they're setting records at auctions which if you consider inflation these cars are just NOW selling for what their MSRP was 50 years ago.

1965 Mustang base MSRP: $2395
Adjusted for inflation: $17.7k
Average price of a 'good' condition '65 Mustang: ~$18k

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtool...port?vc=255616

Consider that right now 50's cars are sky high because demand will always be greater than supply at this point, 70's cars are just starting to swing up (C3 Corvettes, BMW 2002, Datsun 240z, 911's etc.) but they are still several years from breaking even like the cars in the 60's. Again, unless there is a huge shift in regulations or pop culture I doubt this trend will change.

Edit: I agree with Tyler, it'll never disappear completely but rather become a niche market like I mentioned with the Hot Rodders and lowriders and ratted out or whatever else is out there.
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Rice has already passed and has been replaced by hellaflush.

When's the last time you saw a car look like that Supra in regular driving? Maybe once or twice a year in the past 5 years? Sure every once in awhile you see a wing on a Civic and big wheels but nothing like the rediculous stickers and decals that were prevalent in the early '00s. Meanwhile I see slammed VW's on my commute to work daily.

Supra will remain as a cool car for awhile but I foresee it falling out of favor soon as the rice tax comes down, it generally takes about 40 years for a car to start going up in value from it's low point about 30 years in, for the last generation of Supra I expect prices to fall over the next 10-15 years unless there's a big shift in pop culture or regulations that make the car desirable again.

See cars that are now classic like 60's Corvettes and Mustangs and Camaros and 911s, they were dirt cheap in the 80's left out to rot or sold for scrap, now they're setting records at auctions which if you consider inflation these cars are just NOW selling for what their MSRP was 50 years ago.

1965 Mustang base MSRP: $2395
Adjusted for inflation: $17.7k
Average price of a 'good' condition '65 Mustang: ~$18k

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtool...port?vc=255616

Consider that right now 50's cars are sky high because demand will always be greater than supply at this point, 70's cars are just starting to swing up (C3 Corvettes, BMW 2002, Datsun 240z, 911's etc.) but they are still several years from breaking even like the cars in the 60's. Again, unless there is a huge shift in regulations or pop culture I doubt this trend will change.

Edit: I agree with Tyler, it'll never disappear completely but rather become a niche market like I mentioned with the Hot Rodders and lowriders and ratted out or whatever else is out there.
The muscle car market is a bad gauge. Those numbers will double and triple for cars that people actually want, like 390 GTs, Z/28s, and Hemi/440 cars. A Plain Jane 69 Camaro driver with a 327 may only be worth 25k, but a 69 Z/28 in the same condition is worth 50k+.
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The muscle car market is a bad gauge. Those numbers will double and triple for cars that people actually want, like 390 GTs, Z/28s, and Hemi/440 cars. A Plain Jane 69 Camaro driver with a 327 may only be worth 25k, but a 69 Z/28 in the same condition is worth 50k+.
Yep. Not to mention what you'll pay for something really rare, like a Hemi 'Cuda in good condition or a Charger Daytona (both well into 6 figures, last I checked).
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The muscle car market is a bad gauge. Those numbers will double and triple for cars that people actually want, like 390 GTs, Z/28s, and Hemi/440 cars. A Plain Jane 69 Camaro driver with a 327 may only be worth 25k, but a 69 Z/28 in the same condition is worth 50k+.
I was going to research a couple different models to prove my point but I think I should try to understand yours first. Are you implying that the high end Japanese sports cars of the 90's will follow a different trend from the last 100 years of sports cars? Everything from Mercedes Gullwings to first year Corvettes to the Z28s and Hemi 440's and 911S's were at one point sold for much less than their initial price and for a fraction of what they are valued at now.

Why would the Supra be any different?
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Yep. Not to mention what you'll pay for something really rare, like a Hemi 'Cuda in good condition or a Charger Daytona (both well into 6 figures, last I checked).
Brother in law has a hemi cuda, he paid what I did for my supra, I think you guys need to check out the car market a bit more, also for sale prices and purchases on supras recently has been going up

6-figure for a average well conditioned hemi-cuda? You've been watching to much auction TV
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