Advice for a first time modder - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ChandlerSwyng · 07-20-2013, 03:06 AM

I am new to modding since the BRZ is my first car. I want to lower the car around 20-30mm but still keep the suspension nice and not feel EVERY bump in the road. I've heard the Eibach Pro Kit works well, but I still want to hear opinions. Thanks!

86_ZN6 · 07-20-2013, 03:07 AM

Rce springs is my advice

bkblitzed · 07-20-2013, 03:10 AM

IMO you cant go wrong with either eibach, RCE, swift etc. You might want to go with RCE just because of the bump stops, but i chose swift since they're in cali and they have a good rep with STi's.

ChandlerSwyng · 07-20-2013, 03:17 AM

I'm pretty torn between the Eibach sportlines and the RCE yellows..

bkblitzed · 07-20-2013, 03:23 AM

i say rce because of the bump stops. It'll save some life on your struts.

stockysnail · 07-20-2013, 03:26 AM

RCE Yellow are the best for comfort and performance. I have the Pro-Kit and Sportlines and they are too bouncy and don't handle as well as the RCE Yellows. The Sportlines look the best however but I'm a function > form kind of guy. H&R are very similar to the Eibachs so expect similar return on investment.

ChandlerSwyng · 07-20-2013, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by stockysnail

RCE Yellow are the best for comfort and performance. I have the Pro-Kit and Sportlines and they are too bouncy and don't handle as well as the RCE Yellows. The Sportlines look the best however but I'm a function > form kind of guy. H&R are very similar to the Eibachs so expect similar return on investment.

I read that the sportlines aren't very bumpy on review threads, how bad is it?

stockysnail · 07-20-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mrauburnhd

I read that the sportlines aren't very bumpy on review threads, how bad is it?

It's not too bad, but noticeable. I'm picky though so you may not notice it as much. Larger bumps are definitely more harsh and noticeable however.

RehabJeff86 · 07-20-2013, 08:36 PM

just do Ohlins Road and Track full set up and its butter smooth

Enraged21 · 07-21-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

just do Ohlins Road and Track full set up and its butter smooth

Ohlin's suspension set up = $3k+ ?
RCE or Eibach Springs $250 ?

Completely different boats buddy

Calum · 07-21-2013, 10:18 AM

RCE is the only company I know of that changes the spring rates to match the roll rates at the lowered height. Everyone else just stiffens the springs a similar amount front and rear. This would be fine on a car with struts front and rear, or multi link front and rear. But that's not the case with this car. Lowering a multi link like in the rear of our cars, helps the roll centre. But lowering a strut suspension makes the roll centre higher, thus requiring the lowering springs to be stiffer then multi link lowering springs all else being equal. Also, this car is very bump stop happy from the factory. Again RCE takes care of this with their spring rates. On top of that, the RCE yellows only lower the car 20 mm. Not much if your main concern is appearance, but if your worred about performance this doesn't cause bump steer issues. Also the spring rates and heights will work well with the stock dampers. I really can't think of a compelling reason to go with any other company for lowering springs.

RehabJeff86 · 07-21-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Enraged21

Ohlin's suspension set up = $3k+ ?
RCE or Eibach Springs $250 ?

Completely different boats buddy

And the result is also different boats buddy - butter smooth when you hv properly valved shocks - the best 3.7k u can spend on the car:happy0180:

dem00n · 07-21-2013, 04:56 PM

Even with aftermarket strings and stock shocks you're going to eventually change the shocks...and maybe the springs depending which ones you get.

07-20-2013, 03:06 AM	#1
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07-20-2013, 08:36 PM	#9
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Calum That Guy Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2013 asphalt FRS MT Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 4,865 Thanks: 5,058 Thanked 2,867 Times in 1,499 Posts Mentioned: 82 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	RCE is the only company I know of that changes the spring rates to match the roll rates at the lowered height. Everyone else just stiffens the springs a similar amount front and rear. This would be fine on a car with struts front and rear, or multi link front and rear. But that's not the case with this car. Lowering a multi link like in the rear of our cars, helps the roll centre. But lowering a strut suspension makes the roll centre higher, thus requiring the lowering springs to be stiffer then multi link lowering springs all else being equal. Also, this car is very bump stop happy from the factory. Again RCE takes care of this with their spring rates. On top of that, the RCE yellows only lower the car 20 mm. Not much if your main concern is appearance, but if your worred about performance this doesn't cause bump steer issues. Also the spring rates and heights will work well with the stock dampers. I really can't think of a compelling reason to go with any other company for lowering springs. Last edited by Calum; 07-21-2013 at 03:22 PM.

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bkblitzed is better than you Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 raven FRS Location: Norcal Posts: 1,293 Thanks: 591 Thanked 1,347 Times in 745 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	IMO you cant go wrong with either eibach, RCE, swift etc. You might want to go with RCE just because of the bump stops, but i chose swift since they're in cali and they have a good rep with STi's.

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ChandlerSwyng Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 Red Subaru Brz Location: Phoenix Posts: 699 Thanks: 111 Thanked 207 Times in 133 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm pretty torn between the Eibach sportlines and the RCE yellows..

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bkblitzed is better than you Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 raven FRS Location: Norcal Posts: 1,293 Thanks: 591 Thanked 1,347 Times in 745 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i say rce because of the bump stops. It'll save some life on your struts.

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