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[Tokay444]

"i HaVeN't HaD aNy PrObLeMs YeT!"
The fact of the matter is, we know this engine has oiling issues, be it starvation, lack of pressure, over temperature, or all of the above. You guys do whatever the fuck you want with your own cars, but don't try to pretend like you're bullet proof reliable at redline, because that just isn't the case. An oil cooler is a bandaid for the actual deficiency.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

"i HaVeN't HaD aNy PrObLeMs YeT!"
The fact of the matter is, we know this engine has oiling issues, be it starvation, lack pressure, over temperature, or all of the above. You guys do whatever the fuck you want with your own cars, but don't try to pretend like you're bullet proof reliable at redline, because that just isn't the case. An oil cooler is a bandaid for the actual deficiency.

You sound like fun at parties.

[Tokay444]

People at parties not like the truth or something?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

"i HaVeN't HaD aNy PrObLeMs YeT!"
The fact of the matter is, we know this engine has oiling issues, be it starvation, lack of pressure, over temperature, or all of the above. You guys do whatever the fuck you want with your own cars, but don't try to pretend like you're bullet proof reliable at redline, because that just isn't the case. An oil cooler is a bandaid for the actual deficiency.

While I neither condone nor encourage it, I occasionally rev up to 7800.

Anything over the factory redline of 7400, is "at your own risk", and you 100% will not be under warranty of any sort.

[steverife]

Originally Posted by Pat

Bouncing off the red line consistently does not sound very fast to me.

It isn't ideal, but...

In a 60 second run, you might have 5 or 6 instances where you get 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or maybe more limiter hits. Sometimes you would have to immediately downshift, sometimes there isn't really a chance to take your hand off the wheel to upshift and/or downshift.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

"i HaVeN't HaD aNy PrObLeMs YeT!"
The fact of the matter is, we know this engine has oiling issues, be it starvation, lack of pressure, over temperature, or all of the above. You guys do whatever the fuck you want with your own cars, but don't try to pretend like you're bullet proof reliable at redline, because that just isn't the case. An oil cooler is a bandaid for the actual deficiency.

The only engines that have consistently blown are the ones with ridiculous redlines, like 9k. There is zero proof the stock redline will blow up cars.

Oiling issues aren't about the rev limit. Many cars would have oiling issues if you tracked them, because most cars you buy off of lots are not meant for that.

People that actually take care of their cars will be fine. You use your car in a way that the manufacturer did not expect, and you will have issues you need to correct. Every issue is correctable.

Stop pretending these are made to order race cars.

[Pat]

Originally Posted by steverife

It isn't ideal, but...

In a 60 second run, you might have 5 or 6 instances where you get 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or maybe more limiter hits. Sometimes you would have to immediately downshift, sometimes there isn't really a chance to take your hand off the wheel to upshift and/or downshift.

Fair enough. I guess our understanding of the word "consistently" differs.

[steverife]

Originally Posted by Pat

Fair enough. I guess our understanding of the word "consistently" differs.

Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen anyone hold it like the new vid where the dude blows up a C5 in an apartment complex parking lot.

..but your initial post was sustain 7k and a lot of autocross happens at 7k+.

[Dr. BRZ]

If you don't redline at yours much, then you bought the wrong car. Sell it, buy a prius, and live your life old man ��

[churchx]

steverife: if mis-gearing is very common, and one happens to be lingering at redline too often/too long on most tracks one drives at .. imho different FD/gearing should be considered, no?

[Lantanafrs2]

I have to redline mine to out accelerate Florida SUVs. Some of those things are quick!

[Nevermore]

My main lament about my auto is the taller gears. It will hit 60 in 2nd so redlining is only possible above the legal limit. That being said, 5k is a beautiful sound.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by why?

The only engines that have consistently blown are the ones with ridiculous redlines, like 9k. There is zero proof the stock redline will blow up cars.

Oiling issues aren't about the rev limit. Many cars would have oiling issues if you tracked them, because most cars you buy off of lots are not meant for that.

People that actually take care of their cars will be fine. You use your car in a way that the manufacturer did not expect, and you will have issues you need to correct. Every issue is correctable.

Stop pretending these are made to order race cars.

If you don’t think oil feeding/pressure and engine longevity at revs aren’t related, I’m not sure how to help you.
I just got back from an invite only Toyota Canada Track day, using my car the way they intended, and test driving the new Supra.

[DocWalt]

Originally Posted by churchx

steverife: if mis-gearing is very common, and one happens to be lingering at redline too often/too long on most tracks one drives at .. imho different FD/gearing should be considered, no?

Can't change gearing in the autocross classes the 86 is competitive in.