Mercedes solves two problems at once R/robotlaw

[Clutch Dog]

Sic, read for pretense. yes its old


But this meme.


Now at face value alot of folks at my work got angry, but i countered their anger by saying, why should I make a product that will willingly hurt the investor for the sake of a random person

I laugh hard cause it reminds me of France during the lead up to the Revolution in the 1700s where Royalty would run over peasants but the paupers wouldn't mind due to it being less mouths to feed

welcome to cyclic nature of the world

[Leonardo]

[p1l0t]

You guys do realize that within two weeks of most cars (not even all) being self-driving pedestrians will just walk into traffic blind, no? Some may even do it on purpose holding their hands up like Moses mimicking the parting of the Red Sea...

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[p1l0t]

Maybe not in Germany..

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[Clutch Dog]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

You guys do realize that within two weeks of most cars (not even all) being self-driving pedestrians will just walk into traffic blind, no? Some may even do it on purpose holding their hands up like Moses mimicking the parting of the Red Sea...

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i mean.. natural selection is a b!tch

[soundman98]

let's be honest. if i'm the driver, i want a car that will have a preference to saving me over anyone else...

but i prefer tools/machines that have no thought process in the first place.

[Spuds]

If it had a choice to hit a bunch of old people or a gaggle of children, would it hit the children because old people are more likely to be customers?

[extrashaky]

I anticipate that self-driving cars will turn out to be far less popular than people expect. Here's why:

The AI will be programmed to leave a safe stopping distance between it and the car in front of it. It will be programmed not to drive assertively, but to give way to more assertive drivers. It will automatically take evasive action when someone changes lanes or pulls out into traffic.

This type of programming would actually reward the more assertive drivers in other cars. People in control of their own cars would be able to zip around the self-driving cars, especially once their driving style is known and so utterly predictable that everyone on the road will be able to spot the cars in automatic mode.

Now consider the people sitting in the self-driving cars. I've driven a lot of places, and one common thread is that drivers really don't like other people "beating" them at traffic. The guy sitting there letting the car drive will get irritated that the AI keeps letting people break in line, and he'll take it out of auto to drive it himself. Once you have enough people doing that, any collective benefit of self-driving cars is eliminated.

Whenever you see a self-driving car in a sci-fi movie, the passenger is always sitting there reading a newspaper as if he's on a train or subway, completely ignoring the outside world. But a self-driving car is not like a train. When you're on a train, you're not watching other more assertive trains pass you. And even if you did, it's completely out of your control, unlike an automatic car that you could switch to manual mode to do traffic battle.

The only place the self-driving mode will be attractive to non-commercial drivers is on long drives on sparsely populated roads. Most people rarely make long drives on sparsely populated roads. The overwhelming majority of time spent in cars is within a few miles of the driver's home, and a large percentage of the long distance driving is on fairly crowded interstates, where the cars would be taken out of automatic to negotiate traffic.

And once a few affordable cars have an automatic mode and people realize how little they will use it, they'll forego the cost of it and buy the cheaper version without a self-driving mode.

[shiumai]

I'm sick of people who jaywalk in CA saunter across the road anywhere they please because they think pedestrians always have the right of way (which isn't true). When I'm walking, I'm always aware that I'll lose in an argument with a car that doesn't see me. I'm all for Vietnam road rules for self driving cars.

[Impureclient]

Originally Posted by soundman98

let's be honest. if i'm the driver, i want a car that will have a preference to saving me over anyone else...

but i prefer tools/machines that have no thought process in the first place.

The future of modding/hot rodding your ride will be hacking the PCM to save your own life. Taken even further, the real deep underground modding scene will program their cars to aggressively take out pedestrians.
It's pretty eventual the AI of the cars cutting out the middleman wanting both it's occupants life and any other humans it can get to whether they are just pedestrians or other cars occupants. The cars for sure will
work with each other since they aren't programmed with racism, sexism, or any other isms humans fight each other for and then they'll start down that evil path to kill us all. They have a historical movie pretty much
predicting how all this pans out. Pretty sure it's Danny Devito from the Movie "Twins" who starred in it.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by shiumai

I'm sick of people who jaywalk in CA saunter across the road anywhere they please because they think pedestrians always have the right of way (which isn't true). When I'm walking, I'm always aware that I'll lose in an argument with a car that doesn't see me. I'm all for Vietnam road rules for self driving cars.

What are they?


humfrz

[Impureclient]

Originally Posted by humfrz

What are they?


humfrz

https://theculturetrip.com/asia/viet...u-should-know/

Those are actually rules they don't follow of course but I think he meant "kill or be killed". Or don't eat anything you hit with your scooter that has a collar. Both are good to live by there.

[shiumai]

Originally Posted by humfrz

What are they?

humfrz

Cars don't stop in the middle of the road for pedestrians. Pedestrians have to look both ways, and cross when they have a chance to.

[reni]

That’s a callous example, but it shows how we think, as opposed to how cars think, and by extension, how engineers think.

More of a marketing decision than anything else.