Supercharger Comparison: Innovate, Jackson, Kraftwerks, Vortech *Updated March 9 2014

[Robftss]

Meh, not a shred of science here...comparing SAE and STD scaling?

[Ralph Spoilsport]

[ame]http://youtu.be/rdCsbZf1_Ng?t=1m37s[/ame]

Yeah man, science!

[tendogy]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

In before gmsii gets in here and raises hell

You were 57 days early!

Edit: Woah, what happened to gmsii's wall of text trashing this thread?
Edit2: Looks like the conclave of people who use the gmsii account deleted their last 3 weeks worth of posts. One of them stated that the gmsii account is used by multiple people, one of whom is the owner of Kraftwerks.

[gmsii]

Originally Posted by Lawnik

Do you work for KW? I hope not because you don't know your market, just about every SC option has an upgrade path to 400-500hp.

there is?....please enlighten me

[gmsii]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

gmsii is David Hsu, the owner of Kraftwerks/Skunk 2

only sometimes...gmsii account is used by several people

[*LongFella]

[Ralph Spoilsport]

...and @KraftWerks last post is gone too.

wth?

[CSG Mike]

Paging @tendogy. Might we get you to update

[tendogy]

Probably not anytime soon. We're trying to move and getting ready to have kiddo #1 join the family in the next couple of months. Between that and work and grad school, time for hobbying is pretty limited.

But whenever I get around to it, what exactly do you want me to update? I still haven't seen a good Innovate intercooler tune on pump gas, and all the Rotrex C30 plots seem to be re-confirming what's already here. I haven't been too eagle-eyed lately though. If there are specific graphs that are better suited for cross-referencing, throw me a link and I'll take a look when I can.

[rickspecd]

So far so good on the Kraftwerks we are doing here. I figured about 260HP on our dynojet and still think that is about right but after looking at all the info here I think we should see that 270-280 range with the exhaust system and stock Cat's.

[zoth]

Originally Posted by mit_peid

I went to Kraftwerks directly with a list of my issues and it at least sounds like they're trying to address each one. I'm going to give them some additional time to get things right as I view most of them to be relatively minor.

So funny because up to now they never got it right. I myself have missing sensor & smooth pulley's even the fact that they stated at the group buy all shipments will have cogged pulley's.

[mit_peid]

Yea missing the MAP sensor is bad but if you contact them directly I'm sure they would overnight you one. Same with the cogged idlers - especially if they were advertising they were ready but they should be able to overnight them to you too. In hindsight the most annoying part of my KW install was putting the bumper back on. Because of the interference with the IC piping, my bumper is not completely on with all the fasteners on the bottom. Because of this, on a bottom-end scrape coming off a steep driveway, it actually pulled & broke off an end of the driver-side plastic cover off. KW said there was going to be updated instructions coming out soon to include FRS grill trimming and torque specs and other revisions but I have not followed back up with them.

[rickspecd]

Loving our Kraftwerks FRS. Drove it around all weekend. Ton of fun.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U-GfSjYGmU&list=UU9jNud6sBy8P5fePlwEo1-Q"]DPS Kraftwerks Powered Scion FRS Shop Car on DynoJet - YouTube[/ame]

[JoonPrime]

sorry ive always been bad at graphs..(failed econ and math classes..) but according to this, does it mean the KW sc gets the most low end torque? and innovate gets the biggest low end *burst* after?? im mostly looking to get some low end power since i wont be tracking and burning that 7-8k rpm almost ever.