What am I missing about getting a flush look

[Kendallkab]

To turn this into a stance v. performance thread is ridiculous and likely confusing for the OP.



I know what stance v is and hate it. Looks broken to me and would never do it

[smg1138]

Originally Posted by sdemo

I care about understeer? When did I say anything about that? OP just wants some wheels that look nice and are semi-flush with the fender... not hellaflush, not stanced, not any of that other nonsense.

To turn this into a stance v. performance thread is ridiculous and likely confusing for the OP.


EDIT: @DAEMANO we must be brothers from another mother... both with RSR Sports-I and SA10rs heh

Sorry, I must have combined your post with another one in my head. That's what I get when I try to write posts on my phone.

[sdemo]

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

Op from what you've posted I really think you will be unhappy with 9.5

Look how many wider wheels are for sale in classifieds.

IMO you sound like you want a 8.5 with a higher offset. 38-45 is good.

I have staggered 8.5/9.5 +45 I regret. Then 9.5 +45 even pokes in the rear imagine up front.

lol what? there are wide wheels in the classifieds because that's what most people buy, so of course there are more of them for sale. it's not because they're unhappy with the width - more likely that they've bought a new set or are selling their car.

18x9.5 +45 surely only pokes in the rear on a stock suspension car with little to no camber. What exactly are the supporting specs for this claim? (tire size, suspension, camber, ride height...)

EDIT: and up front, I have the same spec wheel on my moderately lowered car (with 255/35s) and I want to space them OUT, if anything. I rub the inner fender liner at full lock... and a lower offset (closer to +40) would be better

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by sdemo

EDIT: @DAEMANO we must be brothers from another mother... both with RSR Sports-I and SA10rs heh

I think we just have good taste. Love the wheels and the coils... so much.

Really though, the coils were a godsend. Had them on the car for about 2 years and 20k miles now. They really do everything @Moto-P set them up to do. For the price, the comfort and performance have been a total win.

My only issue with the wheels has been that curb rash is hard to mend due to the gorgeous two-tone finish. Eventually I'll probably end up fixing the rash on mine and then powdering them bronze like the new factory bronze version. My car is black so it'll end up looking something like the FT86SF car here:http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109671

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[Kendallkab]

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

Op from what you've posted I really think you will be unhappy with 9.5

Look how many wider wheels are for sale in classifieds.

IMO you sound like you want a 8.5 with a higher offset. 38-45 is good.

I have staggered 8.5/9.5 +45 I regret. Then 9.5 +45 even pokes in the rear imagine up front.

I'm most likely going to end up with 18x8.5 +38 all around. I'm now thinking about if I want to do +47 up front instead +38. I know still looking at other threads

[Kendallkab]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

I think we just have good taste. Love the wheels and the coils... so much.

Really though, the coils were a godsend. Had them on the car for about 2 years and 20k miles now. They really do everything @Moto-P set them up to do. For the price, the comfort and performance have been a total win.

My only issue with the wheels has been that curb rash is hard to mend due to the gorgeous two-tone finish. Eventually I'll probably end up fixing the rash on mine and then powdering them bronze like the new factory bronze version. My car is black so it'll end up looking something like the FT86SF car here:http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109671

As-Is


To-Be

Both those cars are sitting perfect 💜

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by Kendallkab

I'm most likely going to end up with 18x8.5 +38 all around. I'm now thinking about if I want to do +47 up front instead +38. I know still looking at other threads

Get the +38s.

For reference, I am at 18x8.5 et 45 up front and run a 15mm spacer for an effective offset of et30. I still have about 10mm of room to come outward (poke more) in the front that would still tuck.

I run a 225 section tire that gives some space, but could easily go 245 in the same brand (BFG Geforce Sport Comp2s) which run very wide.

I am lowered 1.6" in the front with 2.0 degrees of negative camber. Here's a close up.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Kendallkab

My question is what else am i missing in getting the stance you want for your car

What is missing? EVERYTHING.

The following is needed to have an accurate comparison if you are only looking at pictures:

change in static ride height vs stock
camber
tire size
tire type
wheel width
wheel offset
wheel maker

of the above items I listed, 5 out of 7 are not consistent measurements across the industry. 18x9.5" +38 can vary by as much as 5mm in each direction on the front face, depending on who makes the wheel.

In practice, you should lay out goals you want and then go from there. If you are set on wheels then you can remove three of the 7 things I listed above.

-alex

[Kendallkab]

Originally Posted by mav1178

What is missing? EVERYTHING.

The following is needed to have an accurate comparison if you are only looking at pictures:

change in static ride height vs stock
camber
tire size
tire type
wheel width
wheel offset
wheel maker

of the above items I listed, 5 out of 7 are not consistent measurements across the industry. 18x9.5" +38 can vary by as much as 5mm in each direction on the front face, depending on who makes the wheel.

In practice, you should lay out goals you want and then go from there. If you are set on wheels then you can remove three of the 7 things I listed above.

-alex

I'm set on the kiwami wheels. They only come in deep concave for 18x9.5 and only available in +38 which Is what I was looking for. If I go down a size 18x8.5 (they don't come in 18x9) they'd only be semi concave.
I understand what your saying about the many things that vary. I feel like it'd be a safer bet for me to go 18x8.5 +38. Especially after the pictures provided.

[Kendallkab]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

Get the +38s.

For reference, I am at 18x8.5 et 45 up front and run a 15mm spacer for an effective offset of et30. I still have about 10mm of room to come outward (poke more) in the front that would still tuck.

I run a 225 section tire that gives some space, but could easily go 245 in the same brand (BFG Geforce Sport Comp2s) which run very wide.

I am lowered 1.6" in the front with 2.0 degrees of negative camber. Here's a close up.

I think you just sold me on the +38. That looks perfect! My car is black as well

[turtlefeeder]

If you want a really agressive fitment and don't care much for square setup and don't mind stagger you could do 18x8.5 +35 front and 18x9.5 +40 rear it'll pretty much line up flat with car body but leave enough room to not scrape ender wall. If you do go 18x9.5 all around front wheel will stick out more than rear. After that you'll probably want coilovers if you don't already have it, find one that'll give about 3 in drop adjustable, than get some LCA to adjust camber in rear , optional to have camber bolt in front to adjust camber. -1 ish camber won't be noticeable which will give you some room for tinker with.