Car and Driver: Lightning Lap 2013 (BRZ competes! LFA TOO!)

[FLYFISHR]

I have always been a late and hard braker even with my Astro Van. I warped the rotors on that by over heating them and had to put sloted heavy duty ones on it to slove my problems. What pads would you suggest I get for my BRZ that willbe used as a DD and maybe on the track once in it's life time. (that been said you never miss what you never had). Well maybe twice.....

[ZionsWrath]

Originally Posted by smbstyle

Not sure how I didn't come across the article until just now, but wow, don't bother trying to run from the cops if they're sporting a Charger:

DODGE CHARGER PURSUIT - 3:17.8

SUBARU BRZ - 3:18.6

Just cross your fingers, hope you are on a twisty road, and hope he has less experience than you?

I mean don't run from the popo >_^

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by Suberman

Pad fade can result in a soft feeling pedal, for some drivers. Unlikely to be a brake fluid problem. "Soft" pedal refers to pad fade, spongy pedal means fluid boiling. Fluid boiling is pretty rare.

Street pads are not suitable for track work. The street pads on the BRZ are really excellent but you don't brake very often in this car on the street. There's very little need to brake this car except for red lights and maroons.

Do you know that air can get into the brake lines? It shouldn't since it's sealed but especially as the pad wears, it becomes more likely. Also, the more water the brake fluid absorbs, the higher chance it has of boiling and that water could potentially effect the brake feel too.

But from my experience at least, pad fading or a bad rotor in itself usually just feels like weaker brakes but the pedal stiffness remains the same. This is also true of my hydraulic mountain bike brakes.

[DoomsdayJesus]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

A car this light and with only 200 hp should be just fine with a brake pad upgrade. I would imagine not even a brake fluid upgrade is needed.

Some nice crossdrilled/slotted rotors wouldn't hurt with brake temps, either

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

I was waiting for my turn to get my haircut yesterday morning and was reading this issue. Made me want to subscribe again.

I regret not re-subscribing once I had a stable address every time I read C&D. I love that they embraced their always irreverent tone, and when the editor tells people in backfires he doesn't give a crap if they cancelled subscriptions because they were offended.

Originally Posted by Bristecom

Do you know that air can get into the brake lines? It shouldn't since it's sealed but especially as the pad wears, it becomes more likely. Also, the more water the brake fluid absorbs, the higher chance it has of boiling and that water could potentially effect the brake feel too.

But from my experience at least, pad fading or a bad rotor in itself usually just feels like weaker brakes but the pedal stiffness remains the same. This is also true of my hydraulic mountain bike brakes.

The only time you're likely to get air in the lines is after incorrectly purging it after removing calipers/disconnecting the brake lines, or if the car's old enough to get a brake line leak.

Getting braided steel hoses would probably fix a good amount of fade/squishiness as well. We also have a firewall that can flex with hard braking, which is why Perrin makes this: http://perrinperformance.com/i-13324...-fr-s-brz.html

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by DoomsdayJesus

The only time you're likely to get air in the lines is after incorrectly purging it after removing calipers/disconnecting the brake lines, or if the car's old enough to get a brake line leak.

What about when you boil your brake fluid?

[DoomsdayJesus]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

What about when you boil your brake fluid?

See above

Originally Posted by Suberman

Pad fade can result in a soft feeling pedal, for some drivers. Unlikely to be a brake fluid problem. "Soft" pedal refers to pad fade, spongy pedal means fluid boiling. Fluid boiling is pretty rare.

Fluid boiling also means you're doing something the stock fluid wasn't intended for.