High clutch catching point

[scionfrs2014]

Many FR-S forum members complain about the stock clutch catching point is too high (see http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8040), and they are happy after the adjustment. For me, the FR-S clutch is relative high comparing to other cars I drove before. I believe Scion has a good reason for it. Does any one know? Thanks,

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by scionfrs2014

Many FR-S forum members complain about the stock clutch catching point is too high ............. I believe Scion has a good reason for it. Does any one know? Thanks,

Welcome to posting, scionfrs2014 ......

OK, I'll guess ...... so shorter people can shift easier .... ??



humfrz

[Wes]

yeah idk, maybe it makes easier for beginners? since there's a higher catching point so you have larger margin of error before stalling. not too sure.

I made mine shorter, the longer catching point started slowing me down, also made heel and toe much better

[Luis_GT]

The clutch pedal is subjective... I find the FR-S clutch to be perfect... but then again, my previous manuals where a mustang and an M3 and both had high clutch engagement... much much higher than the FR-S

[Rayme]

I couldn't get myself to "adapt" the grab point on my pedal so I changed it. It's quite easy. It's a driver preference thing so I would highly recommend adjusting it if you think you'd like it better. The freeplay is quite large from factory, as for the reason? I don't know.

[1086]

I prefer it the way I got it stock, or 'higher' as you refer to it - I tried the low...but.......naaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[strat61caster]

When you're on the floor you know the clutch is fully disengaged, if for some reason the system loses pressure you have extra travel to hopefully get the transmission disengaged.

Also with a high engagement point you don't have to go all the way to the floor to shift, it should be theoretically faster than just going blindly to the floor and back off, unless you have it adjusted perfectly but even then human nature will tend to go 'to the floor - realize you're on the floor - lift off' instead of one fluid motion when not going to the floor.

I await the responses about how wrong I am.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

When you're on the floor you know the clutch is fully disengaged, if for some reason the system loses pressure you have extra travel to hopefully get the transmission disengaged.

Also with a high engagement point you don't have to go all the way to the floor to shift, it should be theoretically faster than just going blindly to the floor and back off, unless you have it adjusted perfectly but even then human nature will tend to go 'to the floor - realize you're on the floor - lift off' instead of one fluid motion when not going to the floor.

I await the responses about how wrong I am.

I would agree that should be true. Higher catch point means shorter shift times. My problem when I drove one recently was I felt all the pedals lacked any feedback and it made it very hard to drive. It made me very glad I opted for the AT.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

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Also with a high engagement point you don't have to go all the way to the floor to shift, it should be theoretically faster than just going blindly to the floor and back off, unless you have it adjusted perfectly but even then human nature will tend to go 'to the floor - realize you're on the floor - lift off' instead of one fluid motion when not going to the floor.

I await the responses about how wrong I am.

DANG......strat61caster ...... how could we tell if you're wrong ....?? ..... .....

Like the time some CW folks were on tour and Kris Kristofferson mentioned his voice was a bit raspy .... Willie Nelson ask him ..... how can you tell ....?? ....

humfrz

[SirBrass]

It was very hard to find the engagement point with the high release point & it made backing up a problem for the first time in years. I never stalled out in reverse till the BRZ b/c of that high release point.

So I fixed it. I still have extra travel if needed, but the release is properly placed to sync with throttle instead of being way late which gives the engine too much time to slow down & makes shifts rough.

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[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by finch1750

My problem when I drove one recently was I felt all the pedals lacked any feedback and it made it very hard to drive. It made me very glad I opted for the AT.

Funny enough the FRS has the stiffest clutch of the cars I've driven, but I get the criticism that the pedals have low feedback, that's probably the biggest complaint I could agree with.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by SirBrass

It was very hard to find the engagement point with the high release point & it made backing up a problem for the first time in years. I never stalled out in reverse till the BRZ b/c of that high release point...........

Oh, that happens when you near 30 years old.....

I see a Buick in your near future ....

(jest ah messen wich ya)

humfrz

[Braces]

I like the clutch as is. During reverse ..... clutch to the floor.
Fast driving (seems all the time) .... clutch is depressed half way to the floor. Seems quicker this way although the shifter slows things a bit. At least it's adjustable.

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Oh, that happens when you near 30 years old.....

I see a Buick in your near future ....

(jest ah messen wich ya)

humfrz

Never! I'm a driver, not a boat captain ;-)

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