Updated: Toyota GT86 - facts from Japan (Handmade and only 1000 units/yr - DEBUNKED)

[pkptd447]

Originally Posted by Praetendere

I really hope the price doesn't jump above ~$25000, or I'll have zero chance of being able to afford one. I'll end up getting myself a used S2000 or something.

exactly my thoughts as i'm reading through this...

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Agreed.

Oh and Thanks Leeky!!

Yeah they not speakers i saw the pic with the side speaker in the rear...

[tripjammer]

Thats how you do it when you are the master pimp in the auto industry!
Leeky should have taken pictures like this...

But again thanks for all the info.

[RRnold]

Thanks Leeky and your trip seems well worth it!

If 1000 is indeed true, it looks like we are now down to 992 units!

[Chokonen888]

Hey Leeky, where are you staying? PM me your contact info if you need any help with anything while you're here.

As for the numbers issue everyone is talking about, it sounds like what will be made for Japan only. As far as numbers being written differently in Japanese, I don't think that's the issue.

For example, 2,500,000 Yen if often written as 250万円 where the 万 means 10,000.

1,000 can be written as 千

Not sure how the two would be confused unless the translator sucked...but then again, most of the Japanese career Engrish teachers here can't speak enough English to save their life.

[tommy]

Originally Posted by Leeky

The car is confimed for a worldwide release in April 2012.
The car will be limited to 1000 units per year only.

April 1st, by any chance? ;p

[Giccin]

Originally Posted by Chokonen888

Hey Leeky, where are you staying? PM me your contact info if you need any help with anything while you're here.

As for the numbers issue everyone is talking about, it sounds like what will be made for Japan only. As far as numbers being written differently in Japanese, I don't think that's the issue.

For example, 2,500,000 Yen if often written as 250万円 where the 万 means 10,000.

1,000 can be written as 千

Not sure how the two would be confused unless the translator sucked...but then again, most of the Japanese career Engrish teachers here can't speak enough English to save their life.

That is... very true. 10,000 sounds more reasonable. 1,000 sounds like a super exotic. lol

[Tsinoy]

sad

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by Giccin

That is... very true. 10,000 sounds more reasonable. 1,000 sounds like a super exotic. lol

My guess is 1000 per week. Thats the only number that makes sense.

[LionZoo]

Well keep in mind East Asian languages count in ten thousands while Western European languages count in thousands. What I mean is where English goes one - ten - hundred - thousand and then resets to one thousand - ten thousand - hundred thousand etc. etc., East Asian languages go 一 (1) - 十 (10) - 百(100) - 千 (1,000) - 万 (10,000) - and then resets to 一万 (10,000) - 十万 (100,000) - 百万 (1,000,000) and so forth. I definitely know people that have just moved that have confused thousand and ten thousand simply because the numbers are counted differently in Asian languages compared to English.

[kiya]

There is some confusion here due to the translation of languages.
I've been doing close business with the Japanese for many years, i don't speak much Japanese and i always use an interpreter for every trip to Japan which i take every few months.

The Japanese have a hard time translating numbers.
Many times 1,000,000 turns into 1,000 or 100 turns into 10,000,000.
It's the number of zeros that is always way off. If you understand the industry (which i'd hope you would if you were even in the position of dealing with a Japanese company) then you'd understand the number.

Also, the Japanese say "hand made" to anything that they consider to be made with more caution than their average domestic product. Everything from noodles to jeans to electronics. So basically this means nothing other than "this car was made by Japanese people only".

[Chokonen888]

Originally Posted by LionZoo

Well keep in mind East Asian languages count in ten thousands while Western European languages count in thousands. What I mean is where English goes one - ten - hundred - thousand and then resets to one thousand - ten thousand - hundred thousand etc. etc., East Asian languages go 一 (1) - 十 (10) - 百(100) - 千 (1,000) - 万 (10,000) - and then resets to 一万 (10,000) - 十万 (100,000) - 百万 (1,000,000) and so forth. I definitely know people that have just moved that have confused thousand and ten thousand simply because the numbers are counted differently in Asian languages compared to English.

....and since we're only talking about 1,000, 一万 and 一千 would only get confused if the translator sucked. (which I am betting they did)

Originally Posted by kiya

The Japanese have a hard time translating numbers.
Many times 1,000,000 turns into 1,000 or 100 turns into 10,000,000.
It's the number of zeros that is always way off. If you understand the industry (which i'd hope you would if you were even in the position of dealing with a Japanese company) then you'd understand the number.

We say "One hundred thousand" and they say "Ten ten thousand." Any competent translator should have no problem with this...and it only comes into play with numbers 10,000 and and above though...which is why I am guessing the translator just sucked.

Originally Posted by kiya

Also, the Japanese say "hand made" to anything that they consider to be made with more caution than their average domestic product. Everything from noodles to jeans to electronics. So basically this means nothing other than "this car was made by Japanese people only".

手作り (hand made) isn't used like that but 生”nama" sure is...everything sounds better with it...name beer, nama chocolate, nama ham, nama sex

[Esclaw]

Originally Posted by tommy

April 1st, by any chance? ;p

They're watching us squirm and cry over the limited quantity of the 86.

[scape]

hand assembled is not hard to believe, there are a few hand assembly plants for toyota cars (mostly for small markets) of specific models. i recently read an article about one being put up for I think it was taiwan (don't quote me on that.) an interior hand assembled will be a dream, in my opinion.
1000/year is disappointing, but then again I don't understand why there is a scion and toyota version. there should only be toyota.

what i want to see is some track numbers.


where is the video leeky promised?