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Benn0r · 07-04-2013, 10:13 AM

sure thing, it is getting installed next week and i should have pictures up shortly after that!

sw20kosh · 07-04-2013, 01:02 PM

Thanks for the pictures!

Looks like no water reservoir tank? Hmmm easy enough to install a reservoir in the trunk if necessary.

my last a-w setup had a 5 gal reservoir. It delayed/prevented heat soaking of the water in the system and I ran ice in it between lap sessions.

pixel67 · 07-04-2013, 01:22 PM

Wow, that looks quite small and unobtrusive at first glance. One of the many benefits of being air/water I am sure. It is going to get quite interesting over the next few months as the addition of an intercooler to this kit should help close the gap between it and Vortech...

Nice work Innovate!

s2d4 · 07-04-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pixel67

Wow, that looks quite small and unobtrusive at first glance. One of the many benefits of being air/water I am sure. It is going to get quite interesting over the next few months as the addition of an intercooler to this kit should help close the gap between it and Vortech...

Nice work Innovate!

What you see is the heat exchanger, not the intercooler.

And also, what gap?

jamesm · 07-04-2013, 02:12 PM

do you have any pics of the actual intercooler core? i'm interested to see how it fits under the supercharger.

pixel67 · 07-04-2013, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2d4

What you see is the heat exchanger, not the intercooler.

And also, what gap?

I realize it is the heat exchanger and was just saying its a lot smaller than the air/air exchanger of the vortech kit. Not better or worse, just smaller. As far as power gap, I'll take it to a different thread. I dont want to pollute this one with any flame war kindling...

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s2d4 · 07-04-2013, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixel67

I realize it is the heat exchanger and was just saying its a lot smaller than the air/air exchanger of the vortech kit.

You mean the air/air intercooler?

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixel67

As far as power gap, I'll take it to a different thread.

Sure, there will be enough dynos and stats soon for real comparisons so yeah, the kit with the highest margin/marketing will eventually be known as over hyped/under valued.

sw20kosh · 07-05-2013, 03:56 AM

Just flashed the new base tune for 91 octane. Filmed my test runs. =)

2nd gear
[ame]http://youtu.be/AsazKY-TTII[/ame]

3rd gear
[ame]http://youtu.be/Qpg8Jb1tEeo[/ame]

4th gear
[ame]http://youtu.be/uW_mioxB9Us[/ame]

This is not the meth tune.

Hitting a maya dyno tomorrow to see what things look like on a graph. Dynojet at the end of next week.

regal · 07-05-2013, 07:37 AM

I think too much emphasis is being placed on the intercooler for non track cars. With a daily driver an intercooler for a 5-7 psi boost always seemed like overkill to me, especially with an efficient twin screw. I just want a 40-50 hp boost without a bunch of tubing and complexity. With a good tune is there a whole lot to be gained by adding an intercooler with a supercharger like this. Usually an intercooler steals 1-2psi, that's 20-40%.

Keep it simple, 215 whp is a lot for this car and plenty for the average daily driver. This kit seems a much better alternative than spending $2500+ for I/H/E/Tune if they stick to the $3500 canned tuned price.

mines13 · 07-05-2013, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regal

I think too much emphasis is being placed on the intercooler for non track cars. With a daily driver an intercooler for a 5-7 psi boost always seemed like overkill to me, especially with an efficient twin screw. I just want a 40-50 hp boost without a bunch of tubing and complexity. With a good tune is there a whole lot to be gained by adding an intercooler with a supercharger like this. Usually an intercooler steals 1-2psi, that's 20-40%.

Keep it simple, 215 whp is a lot for this car and plenty for the average daily driver. This kit seems a much better alternative than spending $2500+ for I/H/E/Tune if they stick to the $3500 canned tuned price.

In your location, it will do that and then some.

MattF · 07-05-2013, 10:40 AM

Anybody have any suggestions as to where in the stock exhaust system I should get my wideband bung welded in?

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Draco-REX · 07-05-2013, 09:20 PM

Well, had a package miss-shipped to my house (instead of work) so I wasn't here to sign for it. I'm not sure what's in it, but it has a shipping weight of 56lbs..

Hopefully I can grab it tomorrow.

My Robispec Cooling System showed up too. Awesome! Soon as the RallyX car is done, CF driveshaft and flywheel/clutch assembly go on. I'll get a good feel with that, then the blower and radiator go in!

jamesm · 07-05-2013, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattF

Anybody have any suggestions as to where in the stock exhaust system I should get my wideband bung welded in?

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I'm not sure where you could put one in the stock header with all that shielding everywhere . Has to be before the cat. Maybe replace the stock one and use the narrowband simulation on the lc-1 (presuming that's the wideband your using)?

MattF · 07-06-2013, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesm

I'm not sure where you could put one in the stock header with all that shielding everywhere . Has to be before the cat. Maybe replace the stock one and use the narrowband simulation on the lc-1 (presuming that's the wideband your using)?

I did order the lc-1. I am not familiar with the narrow band simulation mode though.

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07-04-2013, 01:22 PM	#115
pixel67 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 Asphalt FRS AT Location: Dacula, GA Posts: 517 Thanks: 138 Thanked 199 Times in 122 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Wow, that looks quite small and unobtrusive at first glance. One of the many benefits of being air/water I am sure. It is going to get quite interesting over the next few months as the addition of an intercooler to this kit should help close the gap between it and Vortech... Nice work Innovate! __________________ My Boosted Daily Driver Journal

07-05-2013, 03:56 AM	#120
sw20kosh Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Black FR-S Location: SF Posts: 3,030 Thanks: 881 Thanked 2,014 Times in 990 Posts Mentioned: 153 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Just flashed the new base tune for 91 octane. Filmed my test runs. =) 2nd gear [ame]http://youtu.be/AsazKY-TTII[/ame] 3rd gear [ame]http://youtu.be/Qpg8Jb1tEeo[/ame] 4th gear [ame]http://youtu.be/uW_mioxB9Us[/ame] This is not the meth tune. Hitting a maya dyno tomorrow to see what things look like on a graph. Dynojet at the end of next week. Last edited by sw20kosh; 07-10-2013 at 12:45 PM.

07-05-2013, 07:37 AM	#121
regal Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion FR-S/Toyota Yaris Location: PA Posts: 1,438 Thanks: 21 Thanked 316 Times in 232 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think too much emphasis is being placed on the intercooler for non track cars. With a daily driver an intercooler for a 5-7 psi boost always seemed like overkill to me, especially with an efficient twin screw. I just want a 40-50 hp boost without a bunch of tubing and complexity. With a good tune is there a whole lot to be gained by adding an intercooler with a supercharger like this. Usually an intercooler steals 1-2psi, that's 20-40%. Keep it simple, 215 whp is a lot for this car and plenty for the average daily driver. This kit seems a much better alternative than spending $2500+ for I/H/E/Tune if they stick to the $3500 canned tuned price. __________________ 2013 FRS Argento Silver 6MT Mods: Clear fender side lights Tactrix ZA1JB01C 2014 Calib

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