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Old 10-13-2014, 10:36 PM   #155
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Well some people here seem to think a race car is a 4000lb whale with 707hp and a warranty from Dodge.
pretty much nascar right? i dont think this car is going to be any more race car than the hellcat. still dont think their opinions are on the right track either though.
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Old 10-14-2014, 12:34 AM   #156
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pretty much nascar right? i dont think this car is going to be any more race car than the hellcat. still dont think their opinions are on the right track either though.
I'd say this thing is closer to a NASCAR 'stock' car than a Hellcat (in the # of areas attention was paid to it). It's not all about power. It is certainly more race car than probably 95% of the stock or 'tuned/modified' 86s that have hit the track under private ownership to date. Whether it's worth the price or can even be acquired by the moaners is another thing. We can certainly agree on that last point.
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Old 10-14-2014, 01:37 AM   #157
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I'd say this thing is closer to a NASCAR 'stock' car than a Hellcat (in the # of areas attention was paid to it). It's not all about power. It is certainly more race car than probably 95% of the stock or 'tuned/modified' 86s that have hit the track under private ownership to date. Whether it's worth the price or can even be acquired by the moaners is another thing. We can certainly agree on that last point.
I was only pointing out that your description of the Dodge was along the lines of nascar. I don't know enough about either car to agree or disagree with what you're saying but it's clear we have similar values in a track car.
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Old 10-14-2014, 01:49 AM   #158
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I was only pointing out that your description of the Dodge was along the lines of nascar. I don't know enough about either car to agree or disagree with what you're saying but it's clear we have similar values in a track car.
Yup, gotcha. I read your first two different ways. I think in this case, we can agree to agree lol.
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at the end of that video, he says due to marketing rules they cant release the actual hp upgrades, but its over 9000.
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Not a fan of the video but it's good to have. Aggressive edit of the stock 86. Did it kill all the cones or blow an injector seal?

I guess we should should rename it from track edition to parking lot edition. Put the thing on Tsukuba already and get some numbers!
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http://toyota.jp/customize/86/14r-60/spec/

Website says that it's a track car.
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http://toyota.jp/customize/86/14r-60/spec/

Website says that it's a track car.
yes it's a track car, the red one behind it and the griffon in the video is the street car.
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The japanese do this with all their cars. The japanese are very fond of suspension and aero tuning. They build cars with their intended characteristics out of the box and any factory changes and revisions afterwards usually tend to address aero and suspension rather than power.

just look at the ap1 s2000, the ap2, and the cr. the power jump was never that great. only halo cars like the GTR get power bumps to sway buyers of its competition.

you wouldn't see any sort of crazy power jump like an american company, such as dodge's challenger hellcat. power jumps are more of an american/european approach.
Totally agree, but I have a bit of an issue with pointless aero. Sure it may be R&D'd but what does a 200hp car that doesn't easily clear 105mph benefit from upgraded aero?
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Totally agree, but I have a bit of an issue with pointless aero. Sure it may be R&D'd but what does a 200hp car that doesn't easily clear 105mph benefit from upgraded aero?

Just curious, at what speed do you think aero is required?

Most auto actuated spoilers go up at 60mph, btw.
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Better question is why does his car not break 105 mph...I know mine as well as a few others have no problem getting there in 4th gear...
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