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Old 08-22-2019, 03:42 AM   #29
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I did the same thing and forgot to release the E brake, I got the rotor off but now I cannot get my new one back on, or the old one. I can't seem to get it over the ebrake. (the Ebrake is off). Any advice how to get it on?
If they work like the old shoe/drum brakes, I'd suggest you push them together as much as you can and make sure they are "round". If they still won't go on, you may have to back off the adjustment and then re-adjust once they are installed.


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If they work like the old shoe/drum brakes, I'd suggest you push them together as much as you can and make sure they are "round". If they still won't go on, you may have to back off the adjustment and then re-adjust once they are installed.


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Yeah I'm not too familiar with drum brakes, but I rooted around google and found I need to mark and turn that adjuster part to tighten it up.
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When it comes to really old shit like drum brakes, hum is your huckleberry. Sometime you should ask him about his brake cylinder hone.
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When it comes to really old shit like drum brakes, hum is your huckleberry. Sometime you should ask him about his brake cylinder hone.
Oh yes, part of the repair process. A couple of cautions:

DO NOT breath the brake dust when you blow it off the brake drum - causes cancer.

DO NOT use trichloroethylene to clean brake parts - causes cancer

CAUTION using brake cleaner - even the stuff without TCE

INVEST in a brake tool to replace the return springs (unless you are really quick with two screwdrivers).

When bleeding the brakes, make sure the person pumping the pedal ain't half deaf (an eye full of brake fluid is painful).

Adjust the brake shoes back before trying to replace the drum - the new shoes are thicker

Drink no more than one beer per wheel

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When I was a kid, my dad had a five gallon can of carbon tetrachloride. I used to clean my hands with it.
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Oh yes, part of the repair process. A couple of cautions:

DO NOT breath the brake dust when you blow it off the brake drum - causes cancer.

DO NOT use trichloroethylene to clean brake parts - causes cancer

CAUTION using brake cleaner - even the stuff without TCE

INVEST in a brake tool to replace the return springs (unless you are really quick with two screwdrivers).

When bleeding the brakes, make sure the person pumping the pedal ain't half deaf (an eye full of brake fluid is painful).

Adjust the brake shoes back before trying to replace the drum - the new shoes are thicker

Drink no more than one beer per wheel

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thanks for the advice, Im pretty sure the brake clean I got has that stuff, I use gloves and a mouth cover and goggles but still I smell/breathed some in when using it, I tried to avoid it best I can but still got bits of it. Would it be terrible if I tried to use rubbing alcohol to clean my rotors and shims instead of brake clean?

For the drum brakes I tried adjusting it back to the way it was before putting the rotor back on, I failed it wont loosen to the way it was. So I loosened it until I could hear the drum braking touching the rotor when I turn the wheel, then I back off some so it spins with out touching (ebrake is not engaged) Is this right or am I doin it all wrong? I did this with two screw drivers and it was a pain in the ass.

I recently bleed my brakes so Im just using a turkey baster to suck out extra fluid and I'll add it back after I press the brake pedal.



I also smashed the shit out of finger pushing the rear rotors back on, worth it to be careful

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When I was a kid, my dad had a five gallon can of carbon tetrachloride. I used to clean my hands with it.
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LOL. Good advice humfrz. TCE is really nasty stuff. Brake dust isn't much better. My inability to throw away tools has left me with a pretty full compliment of drum brake tools even though, p-brakes aside, I haven't played with them in decades. Dear FSM I do love disc brakes.
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Oh yes, part of the repair process. A couple of cautions:

DO NOT breath the brake dust when you blow it off the brake drum - causes cancer.

DO NOT use trichloroethylene to clean brake parts - causes cancer

CAUTION using brake cleaner - even the stuff without TCE

INVEST in a brake tool to replace the return springs (unless you are really quick with two screwdrivers).

When bleeding the brakes, make sure the person pumping the pedal ain't half deaf (an eye full of brake fluid is painful).

Adjust the brake shoes back before trying to replace the drum - the new shoes are thicker

Drink no more than one beer per wheel

Got it -


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next you're gonna tell me it doesn't take a full weekend to do 4 brakes!
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thanks for the advice, Im pretty sure the brake clean I got has that stuff, I use gloves and a mouth cover and goggles but still I smell/breathed some in when using it, I tried to avoid it best I can but still got bits of it. Would it be terrible if I tried to use rubbing alcohol to clean my rotors and shims instead of brake clean?

For the drum brakes I tried adjusting it back to the way it was before putting the rotor back on, I failed it wont loosen to the way it was. So I loosened it until I could hear the drum braking touching the rotor when I turn the wheel, then I back off some so it spins with out touching (ebrake is not engaged) Is this right or am I doin it all wrong? I did this with two screw drivers and it was a pain in the ass.

I recently bleed my brakes so Im just using a turkey baster to suck out extra fluid and I'll add it back after I press the brake pedal.



I also smashed the shit out of finger pushing the rear rotors back on, worth it to be careful
Good work.

Keep in mind that my "advice" is sort of out of date. Back in the day, brake shoes were made out of asbestos (thus so was the brake dust) and we weren't aware it could cause lung cancer, so we didn't use any masks.

TCE (it its pure form) wasn't widely used by the general public, so we didn't use masks (not that they would do much good). The only solvent I used to clean up automotive parts was plain gasoline, applied with an old paint brush. Alcohol would work.

No way would we use latex gloves while working on a car. Latex gloves were only used by surgeons, not even the family doctor or the vet used them.

As far as adjusting the drum brakes, we would adjust them down tight (to set the shoes) then back off the adjuster till they barely made contact.

As far as using the turkey baster, if your SO sees you take it out of the drawer and head to the garage, plan on buying a new one for the kitchen.

Yep, working on your own car can be a rewarding experience -


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next you're gonna tell me it doesn't take a full weekend to do 4 brakes!
Well, no. Back then, when my car was jacked up on cracked cement blocks, in a drafty barn, on a dirt floor and it was just above freezing and I was working with cloth gloves, with holes in the fingers and soaked with gasoline, sitting on the cold dirt floor . I could make quick work of a brake job.

Oh yes, @DandoX, I smashed my fingers a few times too, but it didn't slow me down. Why not? Because my cold, gasoline soaked hands didn't feel anything till the job was done and I was thawing them out over the stove in the house. -




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