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View Poll Results: How many 86 owners are planning on getting the Supra?
I'm definitely getting one 23 12.92%
I might get one if they offer a MT 70 39.33%
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:41 PM   #1541
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There doesn't seem to be that much space between the cylinders to square off the bore. If I recall, the MK4 can be bored to around 87 or 88mm. Lets say you can bore the B58 by 2mm.... still far off. Would the de-stroke it just to have a higher RPM ?

This video is great btw I watched the whole thing. Loved the 2JZ teardown and rebuild and the hatch build too.
Im no expert on how to maximize rpms or power, but turbo motors are load dependent, so long gears and high rpms seem like a plus. A long stroke is good for torque, but, as the rpms increase, the piston speeds get so fast that the flame front is chasing the piston, so torque drops off at the top of the rev range. Looking at high revving motors like BMWs S65 (8400rpm redline), the stroke was only 75mm with a bore of 92mm, so over square design, which allowed for the high redline. The 2JZ not only had wicked top end power, but it pulled so hard to redline, which felt amazing. Where other motors seem to be dropping off in torque, the 2JZ wanted to give more. I dont know if the redline was underrated. For the B58, I bet they wanted a shorter engine, even if it is an inch, and they wanted more stroke for faster spool.
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:55 AM   #1542
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A good exhaust shop will not make a shit exhaust

And if your talking anywhere past the turbo, design is simple, with some basic math skill you can design a turbo back exhaust to suit your power and sound requirements

Adding a brand name only adds cost not necessarily quality or performance

100% of the race cqrs or big Hp cars I know have either had their exhausts made at a exhaust shop or in their own garage

Brand name pre-fabed exhausts are more a convenience thing

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I mean...I'm aware of that. But a lot of what you pay for is the sound, which for 4 cylinder and turbo engines requires a bit of carefulness, lest you be stuck with something that sounds horrible. Obviously people with race/track cars don't care - and it's usually very clear at the track when those cars drive by, sounding absolutely atrocious.
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Old 08-14-2019, 05:56 PM   #1543
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First supra in the 500s. Downpipe and e85 blend put down 500 whp and 548 tq.

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Don't know if anyone is still watching Top Gear, but they had a good piece on the Supra this week. Chris Harris wasn't much of a fan though.

The lap and part of the piece on it is here, but I couldn't find the results portion to post. it was 1:23.1 which was a good performance but it was well down on the board.

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What tool are Supra owners using to flash their ECU?
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Seems like the Supra could be improved according to professional racer Tom O.

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First one broke into the 10s tonight. Tune for race fuel, downpipe, and tires.
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I've been curious weather BMW will save their M engine for their cars, or if the Supra will get an M engine. What do you think? Will the Supra get the new S58?

Just for reference, this engine in the X3M/X4M is putting out over 500hp and that is for a crossover. Guaranteed the newer M sedans will be getting more power than that.
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Pricing announced for the C8. 1LT is $59,995, 2LT $67,295, 3LT $71,945

https://www.chevrolet.com/upcoming-v...885884#pricing

With pricing officially announced I think I'm going to go ahead and put a deposit down on the 1LT. It's still a hell of a lot of car for the money.
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Pricing announced for the C8. 1LT is $59,995, 2LT $67,295, 3LT $71,945

https://www.chevrolet.com/upcoming-v...885884#pricing

With pricing officially announced I think I'm going to go ahead and put a deposit down on the 1LT. It's still a hell of a lot of car for the money.
I think this is the thread where that post belongs:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...110603&page=46
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I've been curious weather BMW will save their M engine for their cars, or if the Supra will get an M engine. What do you think? Will the Supra get the new S58?

Just for reference, this engine in the X3M/X4M is putting out over 500hp and that is for a crossover. Guaranteed the newer M sedans will be getting more power than that.
maybe not anytime in the near future, but i could see this happening towards the end of Surpas life cycle. by then BMW would already be working on the next best thing so the S58 would be yesterdays news. kinda like how the M2 now has the S55 in place of the N55.
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Pretty impressive showing for a nearly stock car. Toyota's chassis tuning with the Supra looks to be on-point. Brakes might be a weak point though.

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Saw my first Supra at work today (in Toronto) - a white one. It looked great
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If everybody didn't know that the Supra has reemerged yet, they are about to:
2020 Toyota Supra and Mid-Engined Dodge Charger Spied Filming "Fast 9"
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...and-furious-9/
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