2015 FR-S Tech Specs Document - no engine upgrade

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by stevesnj

haha, I am, since it won't be a 13 or 14 MY

Lol.. the newbies... Always waiting for the better one to come along.. Enjoy the price increase and your 2 new bolts..! I'm sure it will be worth the wait and cost.. When they go to a 2.5L , then it's time to get excited and pay a little more..

[CruiseZen]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

Lol.. the newbies... Always waiting for the better one to come along.. Enjoy the price increase and your 2 new bolts..! I'm sure it will be worth the wait and cost.. When they go to a 2.5L , then it's time to get excited and pay a little more..

Going to a 2.5L won't stop the complaints. All it will do is shift what folks complain about…the price is too high…they should have gone turbo…the new more powerful engine has destroyed the resale value of older model cars, etc.

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

Lol.. the newbies... Always waiting for the better one to come along.. Enjoy the price increase and your 2 new bolts..! I'm sure it will be worth the wait and cost.. When they go to a 2.5L , then it's time to get excited and pay a little more..

So it's only a good car when you buy it not when other's buy it? Narcissism at its best. Jealousy too. I;m excited for my first ever new car and you are insistent on being right, which you are on some aspects but wrong on most. You're the DEVIL!! :P

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by stevesnj

So it's only a good car when you buy it not when other's buy it? Narcissism at its best. Jealousy too. I;m excited for my first ever new car and you are insistent on being right, which you are on some aspects but wrong on most. You're the DEVIL!! :P

thats me.. just a grouchy old dude..
jealous? lol.. I dont think so sonny.. but i'm sure you will feel superior to
those owners with older MY cars.. nice attitude for a noob.
Enjoy your new car when/if you get it.. ! Its a great car and youre lucky to have such a good choice.

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

thats me.. just a grouchy old dude..
jealous? lol.. I dont think so sonny.. but i'm sure you will feel superior to
those owners with older MY cars.. nice attitude for a noob.
Enjoy your new car when/if you get it.. ! Its a great car and youre lucky to have such a good choice.

Yeh i hope so, if it had the same specs as previous MY I'd get it anyway. Cheers

[P86RAVES]

Originally Posted by CruiseZen

Going to a 2.5L won't stop the complaints. All it will do is shift what folks complain about…the price is too high…they should have gone turbo…the new more powerful engine has destroyed the resale value of older model cars, etc.

Good point.

Most on NASIOC were disheartened when they found out the new STi was going to be using the same engine it had since 2004 basically. This, however, isn't going to stop anybody from buying them because of the ability to get so much out of the engine and car together. The complaints will only be brought up for "Remember when everybody said ..." arguments.

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by Boxer486

Wow, some of you are talking a lot of smack about the aerodynamics of the 86. Without question the zero lift front and rear aero of this car is very real making it aerodynamically neutral for under $30K. It is absolutely one of the most stable cars you can buy at high speeds regardless of price. This is obvious to anyone that actually pushes this car. If you don't know that already, you don't drive the car hard enough and probably shouldn't worry about it.

Hold up... zero lift? Last I heard it has quite a bit of lift front and rear. Plus, I've heard quite a few people complain about instability at highway speeds. Now, that could be caused from a lot of things though.

I do like me some "Master and Lord of the Four Winds Ginsu technology" though.

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by Bristecom

Hold up... zero lift? Last I heard it has quite a bit of lift front and rear. Plus, I've heard quite a few people complain about instability at highway speeds. Now, that could be caused from a lot of things though.

Well, near zero lift/lift reduction.

Where'd you hear that? Certainly goes against my experience and I know the boys at CSG have similar sentiments which goes with the actual design of the car.

The only thing that strikes me as being unstable is the stock damping/valving of the basic suspension for certain road conditions. Looks like Toyota got Sachs to try to deal with that for '15.


The tires having low grip with a tail happy bias is just part of the character built into the car so that shouldn't count. Maybe some people are used to cars weighing less than 3000lbs without big wings.


What's you opinion? Is the 86 unstable at higher speeds to you?

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by Boxer486

Well, near zero lift/lift reduction.

Where'd you hear that? Certainly goes against my experience and I know the boys at CSG have similar sentiments which goes with the actual design of the car.

The only thing that strikes me as being unstable is the stock damping/valving of the basic suspension for certain road conditions. Looks like Toyota got Sachs to try to deal with that for '15.


The tires having low grip with a tail happy bias is just part of the character built into the car so that shouldn't count. Maybe some people are used to cars weighing less than 3000lbs without big wings.


What's you opinion? Is the 86 unstable at higher speeds to you?

Well, I've only driven it a few times on a stretch of highway and I don't recall it being unstable. I would prefer a bit more feel/feedback though. Surprisingly, my Evo X MR seems kind of unstable at high speeds to me, despite it's large grippy tires, aggressive suspension, and downforce, but my old Eclipse GSX is rock solid. And it could be coincidence but it seems like most cars with a MacPherson Strut front suspension always seem a bit more unstable at higher speeds than cars with a double wishbone/multi-link based front suspension.

[BlueDubbinTDI]

Originally Posted by Liquidsnake

My lease will be over by the model 2016 time. I have hope.

Me too!

[vh_supra26]

Well the article said 2015. That could mean we will see something in 2015, but it won't be on the market until 2016.

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

Well the article said 2015. That could mean we will see something in 2015, but it won't be on the market until 2016.

Changes will be coming to the '2015' Model Year GT86 and most likely the FR-S MY 2015. Nothing ever mentioned 2016

[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by stevesnj

Changes will be coming to the '2015' Model Year GT86 and most likely the FR-S MY 2015. Nothing ever mentioned 2016

Oh, I was referring to the "engine upgrade".

[Jordo!]

Air-sandwich tech.

Neat.