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Old 02-01-2019, 12:12 PM   #1
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MCA Traction Mod

Who has the MCA Tractoin Mod? Do you think it help and how/where on track? Would you buy again or is it just a "meh" improvement.
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:16 PM   #2
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I have it and it works as described and recommend it. Better traction coming out of corners.
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Just make sure to check the classing rules for whatever groups you compete with (this part ruins SCCA classing for autox and puts you into the Prepared or Modified classes).
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Just make sure to check the classing rules for whatever groups you compete with (this part ruins SCCA classing for autox and puts you into the Prepared or Modified classes).
E85 is life, so my STX car is already not STX ahaha.

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"reduce anti-squat". So if I installed the whiteline rear subframe bushings to reduce squat, this is going to induce it all over again?
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"reduce anti-squat". So if I installed the whiteline rear subframe bushings to reduce squat, this is going to induce it all over again?
Anti-squat relates to suspension geometry, the WL rear subframe bushings reduce bushing play/squishiness. So they're affecting different things.

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I also have the MCA part installed on my BRZ and I can say it appears to improve corner exit traction quite a bit. I do not have any supporting data though.
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E85 is life, so my STX car is already not STX ahaha.

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Heaven forbid you attach an oil cooler to the car. instant street prepared

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Oil Coolers are allowed in STX, the got added recently.

SCCA also is now allowing regions to make the call on aesthetic mods in street touring at local events(non national/pro solo type). For instance vents, lips, side skirts, wings etc can be allowed at regions discretion.


My region has lots of cars show up that are in prepared classes for worthless mods that bring them to *SP or *P classes, especially when they show up on blow suspension and 400tw tires. It isn't good for the sport as people who know nothing about autox that want to try get scared due to the class they get put in.
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Oil Coolers are allowed in STX, the got added recently.

SCCA also is now allowing regions to make the call on aesthetic mods in street touring at local events(non national/pro solo type). For instance vents, lips, side skirts, wings etc can be allowed at regions discretion.


My region has lots of cars show up that are in prepared classes for worthless mods that bring them to *SP or *P classes, especially when they show up on blow suspension and 400tw tires. It isn't good for the sport as people who know nothing about autox that want to try get scared due to the class they get put in.

It's not even that people get "scared", it's just that it's not fun to go as a newbie and compete against somebody who's previously won a national title, just because you took the backseat out of your car and replaced it with $40 in chloroplast from Home Depot. Sure, it cut ~30 pounds off the car, but it's not going to make a newbie into Randy Pobst, so why be so anal about it? That's basically what happened to me, I went to one AutoX event and realized I'd spent all day to get a total of ~10 minutes driving, while classed against people who'd been doing AutoX for years or decades. I got put directly into Modified thanks to removing my back seat and also since my oil cooler is built into the radiator (Jackson Racing Dual Rad). My car was on stock suspension, stock alignment, stock power, on 300tw tires, but yep, I'm in Modified.
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It's not even that people get "scared", it's just that it's not fun to go as a newbie and compete against somebody who's previously won a national title, just because you took the backseat out of your car and replaced it with $40 in chloroplast from Home Depot. Sure, it cut ~30 pounds off the car, but it's not going to make a newbie into Randy Pobst, so why be so anal about it? That's basically what happened to me, I went to one AutoX event and realized I'd spent all day to get a total of ~10 minutes driving, while classed against people who'd been doing AutoX for years or decades. I got put directly into Modified thanks to removing my back seat and also since my oil cooler is built into the radiator (Jackson Racing Dual Rad). My car was on stock suspension, stock alignment, stock power, on 300tw tires, but yep, I'm in Modified.
I guess, radiators are not an allowed ST mod, so I can see they bumping for that. I personally would have just put you in STX since thats where the car belongs.

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I guess, radiators are not an allowed ST mod, so I can see they bumping for that. I personally would have just put you in STX since thats where the car belongs.

I have been in the SCCA for 10+ years, been the RE/President/etc. I spent a lot of time moving our region from a region stuck in the 90s to 2010+, and we still have a long ways to go, but we now have 10 events a year with 40ish people. Average 8-9 runs, and then a hour of fun runs and are cleaned up by 5pm.
Radiators were allowed in ST beginning of 2017, the current rules also would allow the dual radiator as long as it wasn't installed to make room for a intake...
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