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Old 11-07-2011, 07:48 PM   #127
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Agree'ed your truck is awesome, I for one will go the TRD route, I like the toyota version better or I just have never been a Subi fan, I think the TRD version\upgrades make the car look clean.
I agree. I don't care if it's a scion. I actually like that this car is going to put scion on a better higher level!

I also think this is going to be Subaru's best looking car. Let's face it Subaru does not know how to make a beautiful car. The wrx and Sti are alright but they ain't pretty. The BRZ is. This car is gonna get people into the Subaru showrooms!
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Well turbo or not, the point is...

the Subaru version is BETTER looking, BETTER performance for more cost.

A lot of people who were planning to buy the Toyota version can simply add an extra $4000-$5000 to get a much better looking Front Bumper, Tail lights and Off the factory tuning that increases the performance.

I think there's a big enough market for those people.


Let's face it, out of all the AERO and TRD kits... which would cost $2000-$3000 anyways, the Subaru Front Bumper and Rear lamps are "hot" enough to upgrade from Toyota version to Subaru.
You can't say that...you don't know what the production BRZ lights look like.

Also some of us like the scion front end more than the BRZ front end!
Remember the high resolution pics of the FRS are of the low spec version since it has not fog lights and no LEDs in the headlights like the high spec version.

We have to see both cars side by side and in both trims...
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:29 PM   #129
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It's not the CR ratio that is a limiting factor, 12.5 is doable in a turbo application. The limiting factor will be the availability of a good tuning solution for the D4-S fuel system and how the engine is designed, along with how the internals are made.
I agree. 12.5:1 ratio is doable, but 10:1 is whole lot better. I agree that it need tuning supports for D4S, so let's hope there will be a ton.
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Well turbo or not, the point is...

the Subaru version is BETTER looking, BETTER performance for more cost.

A lot of people who were planning to buy the Toyota version can simply add an extra $4000-$5000 to get a much better looking Front Bumper, Tail lights and Off the factory tuning that increases the performance.

I think there's a big enough market for those people.


Let's face it, out of all the AERO and TRD kits... which would cost $2000-$3000 anyways, the Subaru Front Bumper and Rear lamps are "hot" enough to upgrade from Toyota version to Subaru.
I wouldn't say BRZ is better than FRS or vice versa. Like RRnold said before, Subie version can turn off completely in real life. We need to wait and see first. Though, if all things equal, I take Subie over Scion any day.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:53 PM   #131
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I just hope they don't do a Porsche Philosophy and don't get me wrong I love Porsche I want to own one one day. But I hope it's not one of those We give you less and charge you more IE Boxster Spyder; Because with the way Scion is trying to win people over. It's going to be at least antiquate.
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The 2) Subaru's in the mag test both had different suspension as well as different tires. It is possible that both manufactures can use shocks as well as different tires which will change the specs. They'll be identical with the same but there will be a slight variation.
That's testing. In production they will all come with tire x.

Basic car struts won't change ride height.

My opinion is still that one or both of the measurements is simply wrong though.
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Two things:

First, can we add the "T" word to banned words here, so it just comes out as "*****"?

Second, maybe the extra 15mm in height is due to a huge rear spoiler.
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Two things:

First, can we add the "T" word to banned words here, so it just comes out as "*****"?

Second, maybe the extra 15mm in height is due to a huge rear spoiler.
Oh yeah I forgot the spoiler! Hehe!
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The difference in ride height will most likely be the different spring rate used for the Subaru.
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From what I see no I think I'll like the Subaru alot better than the Toyota. IMO headlights, front bumper are better than Toyota's from what I see. I also like the STI Concept taillights better, but now we have to see if they make it to production. But the rear bumper is better on the Toyota.
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