follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > 1st Gens: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ > BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics

BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics All discussions about the first-gen Subaru BRZ coupe


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-06-2018, 05:33 PM   #1
btan219
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: DGM 15' BRZ Limited
Location: Orlando
Posts: 63
Thanks: 23
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Changing oils by myself, are these a recommended jack+jack stand?

This would be my first time changing oils by myself and using after market jack and jack stands. 2015 BRZ

For jack stands, would the double locking Torin be preferred over the regular? Or is there a completely different brand you would recommend?

Torin- https://www.amazon.com/Torin-Big-Ste...pSrc=srch&th=1

Torin double locking- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00026Z3EA...ing=UTF8&psc=1

For the jack to lift up the front/back of car

Pro Lift F767- https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Lift-F-76...words=car+jack

Thank You
btan219 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2018, 06:26 PM   #2
cjd
Senior Member
 
cjd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Drives: 2017 BRZ
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,285
Thanks: 1,256
Thanked 2,928 Times in 1,714 Posts
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Not going to lie, I'd spring for the double locking... I'm always a wee bit paranoid. I've also been using the standard ones for years (as do so many other people), so that paranoia is likely unwarranted.

For the jack, do yourself a favor (though yes - it's a good deal more spendy) and get an aluminum jack (unless you never ever ever plan to take your car out where you might be wanting to change tires at the event... track, autocross, drifting, whatever.) I like the Arcan 2 ton, bit more reach than the 1.5 ton, though a bit heavier and more $: https://www.amazon.com/Arcan-ALJ2T-A...dp/B00132CGEW/

Also, just so it's out there. NEVER use the round/hexagon base jack stands.
__________________
Second chance build... or whatever it is.
cjd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2018, 06:28 PM   #3
cnk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: '13 DGM BRZ Limited
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,201
Thanks: 59
Thanked 547 Times in 339 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
If it's just for oil changes, get some Rhino ramps from Pep Boys.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
cnk is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to cnk For This Useful Post:
Busybee (07-31-2021), PenGun (04-13-2021), ScoobsMcGee (05-08-2018), Spuds (05-06-2018), Teseo (05-07-2018), Ultramaroon (05-07-2018), Yoshoobaroo (05-07-2018)
Old 05-06-2018, 06:38 PM   #4
Trueweltall
Senior Member
 
Trueweltall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Drives: 2016 Subaru BRZ
Location: Florida
Posts: 394
Thanks: 91
Thanked 195 Times in 115 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I have ESCO 10498 Jack Stands and use a hockey puck with a line cut down it to place on the pinch weld, works like a charm. I went with these because they have a wider base, four leg jack stands have a narrow base and will do a tripod dance when you use them on a slight incline.
Trueweltall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2018, 07:18 PM   #5
gutbuster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Drives: 13 FR-S
Location: NY
Posts: 113
Thanks: 22
Thanked 44 Times in 27 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
The ESCO stands are pricey but simple, robust and stable. I always grab them first. The new Harbor Freight Daytona jack is a beast with a big low to high range. A virtual copy of Snap-ons, coming out of the same factory. Its also a 100 lbs, so it aint portable.
__________________
Former rides: 78 Scirocco, 80 Corolla, 79 Celica, 91 CRX, 90 CRX-Si,02 GTI, 87 944s, 86 911 3.2 Carrera, 03 MR2 Spyder
gutbuster is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to gutbuster For This Useful Post:
Wally86 (04-12-2021)
Old 05-06-2018, 08:22 PM   #6
Trueweltall
Senior Member
 
Trueweltall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Drives: 2016 Subaru BRZ
Location: Florida
Posts: 394
Thanks: 91
Thanked 195 Times in 115 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
If you want to save some money the Arcan-XL20-Black-Jack is $140 and goes down to 3 1/2 inches, but it's only a 2 ton jack.
Trueweltall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2018, 09:56 PM   #7
btan219
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: DGM 15' BRZ Limited
Location: Orlando
Posts: 63
Thanks: 23
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trueweltall View Post
If you want to save some money the Arcan-XL20-Black-Jack is $140 and goes down to 3 1/2 inches, but it's only a 2 ton jack.
What's wrong with a 2 ton jack? Isn't that more than enough for our BRZ's?

Also, any recommendations on a jack that is <$100? The ones above suggested look great, but I'm not looking for the top of a line jack, it's a tool I will be using most likely 3 times a year at most. Just something to lift up my BRZ so I am able to put the jack stands in to change my engine, trans, and diff oils, rotate tires. My vehicle is only used as a daily driver for work, no racing or anything exciting lol

Last edited by btan219; 05-06-2018 at 10:06 PM.
btan219 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2018, 10:13 PM   #8
ZionsWrath
Thanks
 
ZionsWrath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: BRZ
Location: NY
Posts: 4,163
Thanks: 5,989
Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,498 Posts
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Trolly jacks are a waste of money imo, just go to harbor freight and pick a nice floor jack and a couple 2+ ton jack stands. You wont regret it.
__________________
ZionsWrath is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to ZionsWrath For This Useful Post:
Mr.ac (05-07-2018), Pat (05-07-2018), ScoobsMcGee (05-08-2018), Spuds (05-06-2018), trippinbillies40 (05-07-2018)
Old 05-06-2018, 10:48 PM   #9
Spuds
The Dictater
 
Spuds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS
Location: MD, USA
Posts: 9,432
Thanks: 26,115
Thanked 12,432 Times in 6,147 Posts
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I have a pair of old inherited torrin dual lock stands holding up the front of the car right now lol. And a pair of cheap HF holding up the rear. They work fine. I'd spring for a set of 4 torrin dual locks at the 3 ton level (at least) if I were to do it over again. The torrins definitely have better welds on them, though the HF I'm sure will be fine. I believe in having the largest factor of safety when my life depends on it.

Floor jack isn't a life or death thing if you are doing things right. My recommendation is to get a low or ultralow profile steel jack from HF (I have the former) Yes it's heavy, but when are you really going to need to carry it around? Wish I had the ultralow profile, but mine was a gift so . Problem with the low profile one is it's about an inch too short lengthwise if you want to lower the car at all.

Edit, one more thing to note is that i believe stands are rated by the pair nowadays. I believe my torrins are old enough to be rated individually at 3 tons per stand, which would put them at the 6 ton set for sale today, but I'd have to go check. Not that it matters for an 86, but just a note to read the fine print before using them on anything else.
Spuds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2018, 10:57 PM   #10
Spuds
The Dictater
 
Spuds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS
Location: MD, USA
Posts: 9,432
Thanks: 26,115
Thanked 12,432 Times in 6,147 Posts
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjd View Post

Also, just so it's out there. NEVER use the round/hexagon base jack stands.
Why not? They looked fine to me, but pricey.
Spuds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2018, 11:31 PM   #11
Brink
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: 2017 BRZ
Location: CA
Posts: 665
Thanks: 200
Thanked 392 Times in 236 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuds View Post
I have a pair of old inherited torrin dual lock stands holding up the front of the car right now lol. And a pair of cheap HF holding up the rear. They work fine. I'd spring for a set of 4 torrin dual locks at the 3 ton level (at least) if I were to do it over again. The torrins definitely have better welds on them, though the HF I'm sure will be fine. I believe in having the largest factor of safety when my life depends on it.

Floor jack isn't a life or death thing if you are doing things right. My recommendation is to get a low or ultralow profile steel jack from HF (I have the former) Yes it's heavy, but when are you really going to need to carry it around? Wish I had the ultralow profile, but mine was a gift so . Problem with the low profile one is it's about an inch too short lengthwise if you want to lower the car at all.

Edit, one more thing to note is that i believe stands are rated by the pair nowadays. I believe my torrins are old enough to be rated individually at 3 tons per stand, which would put them at the 6 ton set for sale today, but I'd have to go check. Not that it matters for an 86, but just a note to read the fine print before using them on anything else.
Yeah, if it's just gonna sit in your garage and you're not taking it to the track there's no need for a particularly light jack. As long as the jack can handle the weight of the car, which most jacks probably can for a twin, just make sure it's something that will do what little it needs to do and can get under the car/reach the lift points. Just don't cheap out on jack stands, as many people have pointed out your life does depend on them. When I was looking at them everything was rated by the pair, rather than individually, but just be sure you know what you're getting in that regard.
Brink is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Brink For This Useful Post:
Spuds (05-06-2018)
Old 05-07-2018, 12:05 AM   #12
Spuds
The Dictater
 
Spuds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS
Location: MD, USA
Posts: 9,432
Thanks: 26,115
Thanked 12,432 Times in 6,147 Posts
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
One more thing. I always lift with the e brake disengaged, which might be counterintuitive. Reason being that you get less front-back motion when lifting and lowering. The car is going to rotate about the rear hubs in either case, but if the wheel isn't forced to rotate with it (by ebrake) the car won't be forced to roll backwards or forwards. If you are on a level surface and use wheel chocks it's not going anywhere anyway.

I used to lift with ebrake on, but when I lowered the rear, the front jacks (the torrins) would tip up on the front two legs because of the car's motion. It was super sketchy so I stopped using the ebrake and it didn't happen again.

PS. Get a pair of cheap wheel chocks.
Spuds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2018, 07:07 AM   #13
Trueweltall
Senior Member
 
Trueweltall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Drives: 2016 Subaru BRZ
Location: Florida
Posts: 394
Thanks: 91
Thanked 195 Times in 115 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by btan219 View Post
What's wrong with a 2 ton jack? Isn't that more than enough for our BRZ's?
Nothing wrong with it for the BRZ, was just comparing it to the other guy about the jack he posted.
Trueweltall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2018, 09:12 AM   #14
cjd
Senior Member
 
cjd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Drives: 2017 BRZ
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,285
Thanks: 1,256
Thanked 2,928 Times in 1,714 Posts
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuds View Post
Why not? They looked fine to me, but pricey.
Well, the round bases roll if not perfectly flat on the ground. So those are the really risky ones. If one ever starts to go it can bring the car down.

The flat base hexagon version is safer, but I'd never use it outside of a garage with a smooth floor... Defeating the purpose of getting such a light stand in the first place.
__________________
Second chance build... or whatever it is.
cjd is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to cjd For This Useful Post:
Spuds (05-07-2018)
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WTB: Low profile floor jack and jack stands! lupindub Want-To-Buy Requests 2 11-26-2015 11:03 PM
Custom made Jack stand supports AlexTheGreek Mechanical Maintenance (Oil, Fluids, Break-In, Servicing) 6 03-04-2015 05:01 PM
jack stand body contact behind pincheld tjc5268 BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 2 04-12-2014 04:15 AM
Jack stand points xxscaxx Mechanical Maintenance (Oil, Fluids, Break-In, Servicing) 3 09-12-2013 09:01 PM
Jack/stand system Mr.Corvus Mechanical Maintenance (Oil, Fluids, Break-In, Servicing) 28 03-31-2013 12:02 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.