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Old 10-29-2018, 01:53 PM   #43
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I'm sure the hbs helps but I'm not sure if there's anything reasonably priced with more bump travel than these SS1s at a 1 inch drop. A big part of that is the front lowering camber plate, but also KW have a good amount of travel.

What about in the rear of the car? I may be wrong but it feels like the stock suspension runs out of travel when accelerating out of bumpy corners on the backroads around here. That and better control in transitions are really my biggest complaints about the stock suspension for back road driving.
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For what applications would you recommend the RCE T2s and what applications would you recommend the SS1? I have a daily driver that I autocross 10 times or so a year and plan on tracking soon, which one would be better for me?
For more serious tracking, the T2s are better. If you run r comps and are comfortable tuning a 2 way damper (or learning a little bit), they'd be the way to go for you. Just a little more potential.

The SS1 will ride slightly better out of the box and still perform really well, even with r-comps. The ceiling is just a little lower in comparison to the T2s.

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What about in the rear of the car? I may be wrong but it feels like the stock suspension runs out of travel when accelerating out of bumpy corners on the backroads around here. That and better control in transitions are really my biggest complaints about the stock suspension for back road driving.
Still plenty of travel (bump and droop) in the back. For context, we recommend against using some of the 2 inch drop rear top mounts with our RCE coilovers because you have enough bump travel without them, and you won't have enough droop if you use them. It's a lot of usable front and rear travel.

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Old 10-30-2018, 03:34 PM   #46
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These are zinc coated stainless steel, does that mean they’re closer to the ST coilover instead of the inox steel from the KWV1’s?

I’m worried about corrosion affecting these coilovers in the long run.
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:30 AM   #47
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These are zinc coated stainless steel, does that mean theyre closer to the ST coilover instead of the inox steel from the KWV1s?

Im worried about corrosion affecting these coilovers in the long run.
They don't have the inox stainless finish that the KWs or our RCE T2s have, and are more similar to a conventional coilover. I don't expect major corrosion issues and will be running them on my own car over the winter. That said, I will definitely take some time to clean them off when I can.

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Kind of a more general question, since your products are made by KW, which products are tested with their 7 post rig? Are the T1, T2, T3, and SS1 all tested this way?
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Any estimate on the camber adjustment range the plates allow?
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Kind of a more general question, since your products are made by KW, which products are tested with their 7 post rig? Are the T1, T2, T3, and SS1 all tested this way?
The 7 post rig was extremely helpful in development for this platform overall. We learned a lot early on with KW when we were developing our T2s...those lessons, along with everything else we have done since then, have informed the development of every one of our parts. So while the SS1s did not see the shake rig, there's a direct line between the T2s and the SS1s (and the T3s). We weren't starting from scratch each time. Something that's great when you start with a 2 way (T2s) is you can tune them and say "if we ever develop a 1 way coilover, it would be great if the compression felt just like this and we let the user tune rebound in this way".

More recently, Myles seeing how KPAX uses a shake rig with their Bentley GT3 cars has just been pretty cool.

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Any estimate on the camber adjustment range the plates allow?
With the slotted lower mounts and camber plates, you can get a lot of camber. Well over -3 at least.

I'm getting my alignment tomorrow.

Speaking of which, if anyone wants to go for a ride starting next week, let me know!

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Also, FYI...the camber plates are nice and quiet.

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Also, FYI...the camber plates are nice and quiet.

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FYI you can get -2.2 camber up front if you get a set of the OEM camber bolts without even touching the camber plate. We can supply the bolts if needed.

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I have had these on for about 2 weeks and thoroughly enjoy them. They are much more streetable then my 4 year old buddy club racing coilovers. There is a lot more adjust ability and you can tell the valving/spring combination are thoroughly matched (better then stock ride quality). I am running about 6 clicks in the front and 3 in the rear from full soft. This makes commuting great while still allowing for good road feel/feedback. I get a alignment Friday and then will dial in more of a backroads setting for a better start point when I track it next year. I waited on the alignment since I didnt change the ride height much from the previous setup and made sure to mark all chamber bolts to ensure they were installed back the same. The spring perch collars are super easy to adjust and love the locking allen bolt concept over dual locking collars.

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FYI you can get -2.2 camber up front if you get a set of the OEM camber bolts without even touching the camber plate. We can supply the bolts if needed.

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And if you run the SPC lobed bolts in the lower hole with the lower bolts in the upper hole, you'll be closer to -4* without touching the camber plates! I maxed out at -3.8* on my V3's with that bolt combination.
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