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View Poll Results: What name should Toyota use for the production Toyota FT-1?
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:54 AM   #2647
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As strange of an engineering ideology as it may be, Tada-San specifically has "Aftermarket Tuning Capable" as one of his main design goals and that is specifically in regards to the legacy of the JZ.

Now, I def agree that the B58 seemed like a good platform to do that with (it was a clean sheet design over the older n54/n55 motors), but apparently Tada-San and the team at Toyota had a number of grievances with the B58 design that they wanted to address. Hence, the larger scale redesign of the motor.

The other caveat is that there is still the possibility that the CGI version of the motor might not be available with the car at launch, but rather will be on the GRMN top-spec model, which may be fairly powerful (450hp+), and would benefit from the added strength. However, I have it on good authority that some of the mules running around as early as 2 years ago had the new "iron" motor in it and also weighed in at roughly 1380kg.

I'm digging every day for more info as to what we're getting in the production-spec cars, but Toyota has been locking down more and more of our sources as launch nears. My main takeaway is that Toyota has had far more of an aggressive role in shaping this car than the press lets off. There has been a significant Toyota engineering presence dedicated to this project and everything from the chassis, suspension, drivetrain, etc has been meticulously curated and modified to keep the car very Toyota in ideology.

this is so reassuring to hear.

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Old 07-31-2018, 12:23 PM   #2648
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So people here are saying its incorrect information being published that the 2019 Toyota Supra will use the B58B30 engine from BMW?

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...-what-we-know/
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Old 07-31-2018, 12:30 PM   #2649
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So people here are saying its incorrect information being published that the 2019 Toyota Supra will use the B58B30 engine from BMW?

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...-what-we-know/
That’s what Moto and a few others have said. personally I would rather believe sources close to Tada San than click bait media.
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So people here are saying its incorrect information being published that the 2019 Toyota Supra will use the B58B30 engine from BMW?

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...-what-we-know/
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The NASCAR Toyota Supra’s Big Nose Actually Makes it Faster

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Winning by a nose?

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thanks to zakira for the translation.

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/is-...-the-way.1354/

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I would translate the last two paragraphs of the blue section of that article as follows:

"Besides the suspension modifications, a 3 pedal MT is being prepared. Although Tada hinted that there would only be AT, because of strong market demand for an MT, the consideration/preparation for it has already started. BMW already offers an inline 6 turbo with an MT in other models, so it is not technically unfeasible."

I don't know what magazine this is nor do they quote any source, but I remember Tada-san saying in that one on one interview a while back, that he never said that there wouldn't be an MT, and that if there is strong enough demand for it, they will offer it.

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I feel sooooooooo good about this outdated technology being prepared for the new Supra that the corporate bean counters can go weep at the corner.
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Haven't you heard, driving enjoyment is never an outdated commodity.
Gokarts for example, are always fun; regardless of what cars you've driven previously.
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Gokarts for example, are always fun; regardless of what cars you've driven previously.
But they're just too damn slow to have fun with
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That claim has no weight in facts though. There's no way BMW will put an iron block back in the Z4.

I will eat my hat if the motor isn't made like this:

1: Aluminum or Magnesium alloy block with iron/steel sleeves, copper coated

2: Forged steel crank

3: Fracture-split single crystal aluminum alloy rods

3: Cast aluminum alloy pistons

All BMW's turbo engines since the N54 have been like that, I see no reason to change it. The N54 holds 1000 HP on an unopened longblock, IF you can fuel it.
Pretty sure you should grab some sides to go with that hat as the B58 uses plasma arc lining, not steel cylinder sleeves. 2010 called and wants its technology back.
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Official: Toyota FT-1 Concept / First New Supra Prototype Spotted!

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Pretty sure you should grab some sides to go with that hat as the B58 uses plasma arc lining, not steel cylinder sleeves. 2010 called and wants its technology back.
Good to know, didn't know they thinned the iron lining so much since going closed deck. Technically still a sleeve, but much thinner (0/5mm or so) than before

I scoot by on a technicality?
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