follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > 1st Gens: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ > BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics

BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics All discussions about the first-gen Subaru BRZ coupe


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-15-2017, 08:21 PM   #1
Thueniken
Junior Member
 
Thueniken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Drives: Subaru BRZ
Location: Kerrville, TX
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Is this a lemon?!?!

So I am new to the car world.. I have 12K to spend on a BRZ/FRS. I know that is not a lot for this car but I have found some deals. There is this BRZ for 11K that has a salvage title. I talked to the guy and it was in a light crash, damaging the rear passenger quarter panel. (He provided me pictures.)

I noticed a bit of rust on the alternator pulley and the cover is missing.
Also the brake rotors are a bit rusty and a lug nut is missing (Also rusty)

https://goo.gl/U68vZq
Thueniken is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2017, 08:34 PM   #2
2013dgmbrzdood
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Drives: 13 brz limited
Location: California
Posts: 43
Thanks: 0
Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Brake rotors rust in 5 seconds (overnight) after washing. You don't want rusty parts in your engine bay but its completely to be expexted on some things, keep in mind if the pulley or bolt was actually rusted to the point of loosing rigidity or failing thats different that some surface rust.

Spend the extra money and get a clean title car. In my opinion anyone who did buy this would be stupid not to require receipts / estimates and photos of what was done. Did they just assess the accident damage themselves? Was the car inspected? Do they have the original report that must have been generated in order to total the car making it salvaged which would detail the damages that caused it to be a total. These are important things to know.
2013dgmbrzdood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2017, 08:35 PM   #3
navanodd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Drives: 2013 BRZ Sport-tech WRB
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 308
Thanks: 95
Thanked 171 Times in 102 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Honestly, unless BRZs hold their value exceptionally well in your area, I'd keep looking. I don't think that's too far off of the going price for any 2013 BRZ with similar mileage.

I'd either want a better car, or that one for cheaper. You'd have to talk to your insurance as well to find out how they would treat a salvage title car.
navanodd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2017, 08:52 PM   #4
Azzudien
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Drives: 2017 Series Yellow BRZ
Location: New York
Posts: 300
Thanks: 34
Thanked 269 Times in 127 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Do not buy this car, a few quick VIN searches and you will find out is was not a light rear end crash. It was in fact $10,000 in damages on the original estimate.
This car was sold at auction in Connecticut on the salvage title.

Could not find the auction sales price, but even if they got it for $4,000 which would be incredible cheap, it was originally estimated at $10,000 in repair cost.
Do the math, the car should cost at Minimum $14,000 and the person who bought it and repaired would make nothing at that price.

So how is it being offered for $11,000? Crap parts, and crap repair. Run away, far far away

Take notice of the damage description. Common scam in salvage titles, repair most of the car, take pictures showing minor damage, pass it off as car being in minor accident

https://www.easyexport.us/vehicle-fi...le-ct-hartford

Last edited by Azzudien; 07-15-2017 at 08:57 PM. Reason: Added
Azzudien is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Azzudien For This Useful Post:
Atropine (07-17-2017), chaoskaze (07-17-2017), strat61caster (07-19-2017), zizon93 (07-15-2017)
Old 07-15-2017, 10:05 PM   #5
Silver Supra
Hombre
 
Silver Supra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Drives: 1994 Supra Turbo
Location: Miss Sippy
Posts: 221
Thanks: 64
Thanked 143 Times in 83 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azzudien View Post
Do not buy this car, a few quick VIN searches and you will find out is was not a light rear end crash. It was in fact $10,000 in damages on the original estimate.
This car was sold at auction in Connecticut on the salvage title.

Could not find the auction sales price, but even if they got it for $4,000 which would be incredible cheap, it was originally estimated at $10,000 in repair cost.
Do the math, the car should cost at Minimum $14,000 and the person who bought it and repaired would make nothing at that price.

So how is it being offered for $11,000? Crap parts, and crap repair. Run away, far far away

Take notice of the damage description. Common scam in salvage titles, repair most of the car, take pictures showing minor damage, pass it off as car being in minor accident

https://www.easyexport.us/vehicle-fi...le-ct-hartford
Good find and good advice.

LOL at the damage description:

Primary Damage: ALL OVER
__________________
A Toyota Racecar A Toyota......................Because.
Anyway, should not palindrome be spelled palinilap?
Silver Supra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2017, 10:37 PM   #6
Teseo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Drives: frs
Location: Gunsai
Posts: 4,877
Thanks: 7,145
Thanked 2,922 Times in 1,769 Posts
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
I would buy it if a track build is the purpose
Teseo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2017, 10:43 PM   #7
Thueniken
Junior Member
 
Thueniken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Drives: Subaru BRZ
Location: Kerrville, TX
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azzudien View Post
Do not buy this car, a few quick VIN searches and you will find out is was not a light rear end crash. It was in fact $10,000 in damages on the original estimate.
This car was sold at auction in Connecticut on the salvage title.

Could not find the auction sales price, but even if they got it for $4,000 which would be incredible cheap, it was originally estimated at $10,000 in repair cost.
Do the math, the car should cost at Minimum $14,000 and the person who bought it and repaired would make nothing at that price.

So how is it being offered for $11,000? Crap parts, and crap repair. Run away, far far away

Take notice of the damage description. Common scam in salvage titles, repair most of the car, take pictures showing minor damage, pass it off as car being in minor accident

https://www.easyexport.us/vehicle-fi...le-ct-hartford
Thank you so much! We where going to go up there in a week and pick it up. Thank you for saving me from a head ache!
Thueniken is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2017, 10:44 PM   #8
zizon93
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Drives: GBS
Location: GA
Posts: 113
Thanks: 117
Thanked 56 Times in 33 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
If I were you, I'd save 2~3grands more and buy clean title frs that has decent mileage.
zizon93 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to zizon93 For This Useful Post:
Azzudien (07-15-2017)
Old 07-15-2017, 10:48 PM   #9
Thueniken
Junior Member
 
Thueniken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Drives: Subaru BRZ
Location: Kerrville, TX
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azzudien View Post
Do not buy this car, a few quick VIN searches and you will find out is was not a light rear end crash. It was in fact $10,000 in damages on the original estimate.
This car was sold at auction in Connecticut on the salvage title.

Could not find the auction sales price, but even if they got it for $4,000 which would be incredible cheap, it was originally estimated at $10,000 in repair cost.
Do the math, the car should cost at Minimum $14,000 and the person who bought it and repaired would make nothing at that price.

So how is it being offered for $11,000? Crap parts, and crap repair. Run away, far far away

Take notice of the damage description. Common scam in salvage titles, repair most of the car, take pictures showing minor damage, pass it off as car being in minor accident

https://www.easyexport.us/vehicle-fi...le-ct-hartford
Also where did you go to check vins??
Thueniken is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2017, 11:02 PM   #10
Azzudien
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Drives: 2017 Series Yellow BRZ
Location: New York
Posts: 300
Thanks: 34
Thanked 269 Times in 127 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thueniken View Post
Also where did you go to check vins??
Salvage titles you can just google search the VIN numbers. Almost all salvage cars are sold through auction sites, and the VIN numbers will show up in google searches from the auction house websites.
Azzudien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2017, 05:36 AM   #11
chaoskaze
The Fail Boat
 
chaoskaze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Drives: CWP S.B.
Location: LasVegas
Posts: 3,028
Thanks: 4,718
Thanked 1,293 Times in 873 Posts
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
like follow forum member suggest, add a few thousand for a clean title 2013.

2014 would be even better because the minor updates if you want to have no headaches at all from first model year.
chaoskaze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2017, 08:25 PM   #12
Opie
Senior Member
 
Opie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: '13 BRZ TLM Spec
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,956
Thanks: 1,603
Thanked 2,310 Times in 996 Posts
Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Salvage cars are not lemons, but they are great for track cars, but you've got to buy them before they've been "repaired". Then handle the repairs yourself so you know the work is done right.

I just bought a running & driving '13 Premium with 24,000 miles for $3,500...mind you it needs some work, but that's half the fun...front bumper cover, floor pan, brake lines and drivers airbag were the damage that earned the salvage listing, a friend of mine bought it to get the LH drivers door, LH fender & LH Suspension to fix his track car. Now I'm putting it together as a street legal / track day car of my own.








Opie is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Opie For This Useful Post:
Azzudien (07-19-2017)
Old 07-19-2017, 12:14 PM   #13
Thueniken
Junior Member
 
Thueniken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Drives: Subaru BRZ
Location: Kerrville, TX
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Ok guys, I found some more money under the couch and I was looking in the 13k range. I think I found a needle in a hay stack with this one but I would love your input!
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/1b2ee202
Thueniken is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2017, 01:16 PM   #14
007BRZ
Member
 
007BRZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Drives: 2017 BRZ Yellow Spec Ed 1of500
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 67
Thanks: 1
Thanked 43 Times in 23 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
That looks good, But get at least $1K off

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thueniken View Post
Ok guys, I found some more money under the couch and I was looking in the 13k range. I think I found a needle in a hay stack with this one but I would love your input!
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/1b2ee202


Negotiate!! I got $14,800 for my 2013 BRZ Limited (49K) 3 months ago, but it was MINT, New Michelins, Pads, and perfect condition.. Hmmmmm The 2013 came with mud flaps. There are none on this car.

Last edited by 007BRZ; 07-19-2017 at 01:26 PM. Reason: More info
007BRZ is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Tags
brz, lemmon, new car, used fr-s buying


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lemon's CBS BRZ lemonjelleaux Member's Car Journals 6 09-14-2018 07:14 PM
What happens after lemon law Herndon Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 7 02-28-2014 06:20 PM
BRZ- Lemon? laxfogo Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 24 04-05-2013 05:15 PM
Lemon? grgonium Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 13 10-08-2012 10:13 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.