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Irace86.2.0 · 11-06-2021, 11:30 AM

Who would collaborate with Toyota on this product? They don’t make sporty cars anymore on their own unless it is a homologation special like the GR Yaris.

Yoshoobaroo · 11-06-2021, 11:49 AM

That’s a Miata with a roof if I’ve ever seen one

gymratter · 11-06-2021, 02:04 PM

i dont see Fiat renewing their partnership with Mazda for the 124. there are rumors and speculation on web of a joint venture for a next gen Miata and sub 86 car.

Tcoat · 11-06-2021, 05:01 PM

This project is long dead. As discussed years ago it was not to be anything but a Japan only car even if they did move forward on it.

gymratter · Today, 01:35 AM

spike021 · Today, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gymratter

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Toyota is bringing another coupe to the market according to sources in Japan

His source being bestcarweb.

Which if I'm not mistaken is almost always wrong, judging by any of their articles over the years about the shooting brake twin, turbos, different engines in the "next" twin, etc.

Red-86 · Today, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by spike021

His source being bestcarweb.

Which if I'm not mistaken is almost always wrong, judging by any of their articles over the years about the shooting brake twin, turbos, different engines in the "next" twin, etc.

Yeah, Bestcarweb basically throw as many rumours at the wall as they can and see what sticks. The thing is, like a broken clock they are right now and then, through the sheer amount of (usually contradictory) rumours they publish.

Until we see patent filings, spy shots, and video footage of test mules driving around, believe none of it.

spike021 · Today, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Red-86

Yeah, Bestcarweb basically throw as many rumours at the wall as they can and see what sticks. The thing is, like a broken clock they are right now and then, through the sheer amount of (usually contradictory) rumours they publish.

Until we see patent filings, spy shots, and video footage of test mules driving around, believe none of it.

I was fighting some redditors about this the other day. They insisted the guy who made that video is a legit vlogger.

I said, his only source is bestcarweb, which is hardly a "source". A source would be like he has a contact at a JDM tuner who got early access and somehow leaked some stuff. A gossip rag is not a "source" lol.

Sasquachulator · Today, 12:56 PM

So just reading some blurbs elsewhere, seems like due to Daihatsu's recent safety scandals, Toyota has decided to restructure and absorb Daihatsu into the fold and the brand may be killed off soon. And pretty much like Scion, the existing cars are going to be killed off when their production run ends, or they will be turned into Toyota's. This is where the Starlet and SF-R rumors are coming from. Daihatsu was mostly a small car brand now so something of theirs would transition into the starlet, and the Copen is suspected to be reborn as the SF-R.

And its not like Daihatsu wasn't a somewhat redundant brand already, they have a few products that were already rebadged into Toyotas.

View Poll Results: Multiple choice: What body style would you like for the sub 86 car? (w/examples)
Hatchback (Honda Fit)	7	11.48%
Two door coupe (Nissan IDx)	24	39.34%
Drop top roadster (Mazda MX-5 Miata)	14	22.95%
Shooting-brake (BMW Z3 coupe)	16	26.23%
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

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gymratter Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: BMW Location: TX Posts: 2,396 Thanks: 1,971 Thanked 1,825 Times in 952 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i dont see Fiat renewing their partnership with Mazda for the 124. there are rumors and speculation on web of a joint venture for a next gen Miata and sub 86 car.

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