2015 NorCal 86Cup Topics & Talks

[The Racers Line]

Originally Posted by ddeflyer

Just ask nicely and be humble. As long as your self evaluation isn't totally in left field then your checkout will go smoothly.



Also, don't be this guy :

Defintely!

I freakin love that video. It is so unfortunately acurate to some of the people out there.

[acx23]

I'm just suggesting NASA is a good way start off. You'll have an experienced driver sitting next to you to alleviate the anxiety of being on the track. It's definitely a comfort level thing. Especially if you're driving a stick and not comfortable with rev match or heel-toe.

Once you get a couple of these under your belt, then you can venture off to other clubs.

Personally I feel driving school for NCRC is a waste of time and money. Everyone ends up doing lead follow, and unless you're following the instructor, you're following someone just as green and clueless. Not a good way to learn to drive on a track.

Just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by ddeflyer

As I understand it (and I haven't actually done NASA events so this is second hand info), the NASA HPDE program is more oriented towards producing racers instead of track day junkies. As I understand it, choosing NASA vs. marquee clubs (when looking for groups with more instruction) really depends upon if you want to be doing wheel to wheel stuff later on or just doing laps.

[MyRx]

Cost is the number 1 factor on deciding what route you will take in DE. Get to the track is your first lesson.

[ddeflyer]

Originally Posted by acx23

I'm just suggesting NASA is a good way start off. You'll have an experienced driver sitting next to you to alleviate the anxiety of being on the track. It's definitely a comfort level thing. Especially if you're driving a stick and not comfortable with rev match or heel-toe.

Once you get a couple of these under your belt, then you can venture off to other clubs.

Personally I feel driving school for NCRC is a waste of time and money. Everyone ends up doing lead follow, and unless you're following the instructor, you're following someone just as green and clueless. Not a good way to learn to drive on a track.

Just my 2 cents.

Well, that depends upon which clubs you are talking about. Clubs like PCA, Audi and organizations like HOD have a very strong coaching presence where pretty much everyone has a coach in the right hand seat all day.

At the same time, clubs like the Lotus club or Shelby club tend to have very little in car instruction.

[MyRx]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

I see. You will unfortunately have to graduate to Point-By run group in order to register for the 86cup. Best way, if you have 4-5 days, is to have one of the NCRC instructors evaluate you on track for a session. Thoughts @MyRx?

NCRC has their own method of checking people off. Best to contact NCRC to appoint an instructor for you and have him approve/disapprove you. People learn differently so some may need DE more than others. Disapproval is not meaning to crush your ego but rather point out a skill that could use a little more practice. In the end, it's for your safety and the safety of others.

[MyRx]

NCRC doesn't have instructors with each other new driver because that cost money, raised track fees.

What NCRC does do well is enforce the rules. That is as much part of learning as you having the $ for instructors. You can't follow those rules, find a group/org with more loose rules. I'm sure they're around or rent the track privately.

[acx23]

I'm not sure about Audi but I'm pretty certain you can't run with PCA unless you're a member, or invited if you don't drive a Porsche.

HOD is a good choice too if they have instructors sitting with you. I haven't been to their events yet. NASA is a bit less costly but they do have a shit load of cars on track for Group 1 and 2.

Originally Posted by ddeflyer

Well, that depends upon which clubs you are talking about. Clubs like PCA, Audi and organizations like HOD have a very strong coaching presence where pretty much everyone has a coach in the right hand seat all day.

At the same time, clubs like the Lotus club or Shelby club tend to have very little in car instruction.

[ddeflyer]

Originally Posted by acx23

I'm not sure about Audi but I'm pretty certain you can't run with PCA unless you're a member, or invited if you don't drive a Porsche.

HOD is a good choice too if they have instructors sitting with you. I haven't been to their events yet. NASA is a bit less costly but they do have a shit load of cars on track for Group 1 and 2.

I can say from personal experience that PCA is fine with bringing a non-porsche, no invite or membership required. You might take some ribbing for having the "wrong kind of car" though.

Audi you do have to actually join the club but I just think of that as part of the event cost.

I understand BMW also is fine with non-BMWs but I've never been to one of their events (fill up to quick).