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Old 10-01-2014, 03:34 PM   #29
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Now, if you could squeeze in an RB26dett, that would be a different thing.
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Old 10-01-2014, 05:14 PM   #30
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I sense the sarcasm in your reply. Please understand that I am skeptical about the fa20 just because of the bad experiences I have heard of. Bad experiences speak so much louder than good ones.



You're completely right, and that's why I hate to throw even one more argument out there :P

It's not that I need more than 350whp, it's that the power to price ratio seems to be so much higher than that of other engines. I don't think that I would be putting $20k into an sr swap. While I don't have any experience in swapping engines, I am fully confident that it could be done for less than $10k, if not less than $6k (since the engine and trans is only $2500).

You're 100% correct that 350whp on a car that, while I don't daily it I do drive it quite a bit, would be more than enough. However, am I willing to put $6k into a kit that will get it there only to find out that I will probably need a built motor to go any higher should I desire to in the future? I really don't know. I suppose there is always the option of putting my own "kit" together piece by piece, that would surely be much cheaper.

Our engines are only two years old, give it time. How many 240 guys are still doing SR20DET swaps versus V8s or?

Any engine swap that requires fabrication is probably going to cost $20-25k.

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Old 10-01-2014, 05:40 PM   #31
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The main reason I want to do a swap is to be able to hold more power. A friend of mine told a story of a guy he knew who turbo'd his BRZ, had Dynosty tune it to around 400whp and very shortly after cracked his casing. He said that the moral of the story to him was that the FA20 simply cannot hold that kind of power (there's still room for other explanations, the biggest being a bad tune).
Seems to be how everything starts.

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I will search around for that research by FBM. In my opinion, $6k for 350whp is pretty steep. And even then our motor (I was previously told) topped out around 400 stock and then around 500 with some forged internals.
Says the guy that wants to spend the cost of his car on an engine swap that'll make 250whp before requiring more $$ to be thrown at it.

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I sense the sarcasm in your reply. Please understand that I am skeptical about the fa20 just because of the bad experiences I have heard of. Bad experiences speak so much louder than good ones.



You're completely right, and that's why I hate to throw even one more argument out there :P

It's not that I need more than 350whp, it's that the power to price ratio seems to be so much higher than that of other engines. I don't think that I would be putting $20k into an sr swap. While I don't have any experience in swapping engines, I am fully confident that it could be done for less than $10k, if not less than $6k (since the engine and trans is only $2500).

You're 100% correct that 350whp on a car that, while I don't daily it I do drive it quite a bit, would be more than enough. However, am I willing to put $6k into a kit that will get it there only to find out that I will probably need a built motor to go any higher should I desire to in the future? I really don't know. I suppose there is always the option of putting my own "kit" together piece by piece, that would surely be much cheaper.
You only ever hear about the bad experiences. No one goes on and on about the good. Not to mention these are word of mouth 'experiences' according to you.

If you can do an SR20 swap for less than 6k without any experience in engine swapping, you might be able to cure aids and solve world hunger as well.
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Old 10-01-2014, 08:55 PM   #32
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Swapping one 4-cylinder 2L engine for another 4-cylinder 2L engine is complete fail. Hell if you were going to do that might as well put a Honda K20 or S2000 motor in it. Heck of a lot better engine than a SR20.
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Old 10-01-2014, 08:59 PM   #33
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Old 10-01-2014, 09:20 PM   #34
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SR20 has already been done also. Ziek performance in Japan

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Old 10-01-2014, 09:27 PM   #35
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If you spend the money properly on a good turbo install, you'll get close to your 400hp goal, and when/if you do blow a motor, you can get a built motor and make 400+ hp easily and safe for DD, and still have spent probably less than half of what you would on a properly done engine swap.
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Old 10-01-2014, 09:47 PM   #36
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SR20 has already been done also. Ziek performance in Japan

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I sense the sarcasm in your reply. Please understand that I am skeptical about the fa20 just because of the bad experiences I have heard of.
And how many of these bad experiences have you heard of (or read about in forums), and do you know first hand what exactly were the cause of those failures? You seem to have ignored all the other cases where people have have good results/outcomes with the FA20. Anyway, it's your money and your car. In fact, why don't you prove all your critics wrong and tackle this swap....post your build progress in here...and then when it's done we can all know whether the effort and cost was worth the end result.
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hmm yeah that looks like a 3-4k swap total. no biggie, go for it OP.

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Has anyone swapped an FA20 into another car??
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Has anyone swapped an FA20 into another car??
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How about a Hayabusa motor? Or wait for it ................TWO Hayabusa motors!! Aww shit just got real!
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it's funny to see everybody still think SR20 are bulletproof... but everyone have a story about a friend ou blew up his, and had to swap it 2-3 times..... for another "bulletproof" Sr20.....
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